fake match number? with pics
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Racer
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fake match number? with pics
Hey
I bought a '68 convertible some time ago with a NOM 350 cui. I was told that is was not a match number before I bought it.
but here is a picture of the engine number
and my VIN number is 194678s404430.
Has it been restamped then?
Here is a link to the pictures with higher resolution
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I bought a '68 convertible some time ago with a NOM 350 cui. I was told that is was not a match number before I bought it.
but here is a picture of the engine number
and my VIN number is 194678s404430.
Has it been restamped then?
Here is a link to the pictures with higher resolution
PICTURES
Safety Car
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If it's a restamp, they went to A LOT of trouble to get it right. It's the right style and look, plus there are still faint original broach marks on the deck. I'd say it's the original 327 block, and if that's the case, it should have the large journal crank! Now maybe it got converted to a 350 somewhere along the way (just a crank/rod/piston change), but it still looks like the original block to me. Right on...
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Block number appears to be 3782870 .. ??
if this is correct, that would be a 1962-1965 327 engine according to 'Chevrolet by the Numbers'.
Can't read the head numbers in the pictures.
The numbers on the pad don't make any sense. The larger stamped number should be the build date and suffix code. It would look something like : V0901HT
The smaller stamped numbers would be the partial VIN (serial number). That would look like: 18S404430
if this is correct, that would be a 1962-1965 327 engine according to 'Chevrolet by the Numbers'.
Can't read the head numbers in the pictures.
The numbers on the pad don't make any sense. The larger stamped number should be the build date and suffix code. It would look something like : V0901HT
The smaller stamped numbers would be the partial VIN (serial number). That would look like: 18S404430
Last edited by FrankVincent; Dec 13, 2006 at 11:48 AM.
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That stamp imho looks nothing like it's supposed to look. The Font size is defintely wrong as the VIN portion should be much smaller than the Suffix stamp and the whole Format is wrong. Also the 870 block was used in the Vette and other cars from 62-65. Looks like they left the original "FL" Engine Suffix and then ground off and restamped the VIN over where the engine assembly plant and date code is supposed to be. The smaller 41268... is the original VIN stamp that they left but don't know what it's from. A good engine from the early 60s but definitely not the original engine for your car and was originally a 327 not a 350. Post the date code from the right side of the distributor.
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Racer
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ah okay, the car is unfortunatly parked 30 kilometres away...
I did not know the engine was that old, is that a bad thing compared to a non matching 327 from 1968? The engine should be altered to 350 cui according to the seller.
Anybody know which oil filter I should use? This probably explains why the ac delco PF-454 i bougth did not fit...
Thanks for all the answers
I did not know the engine was that old, is that a bad thing compared to a non matching 327 from 1968? The engine should be altered to 350 cui according to the seller.
Anybody know which oil filter I should use? This probably explains why the ac delco PF-454 i bougth did not fit...
Thanks for all the answers
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It seems very strange or quite a coincidence that the same engine number on the VIN appears on the block, wouldn't you say? Perhaps there is more to this story.
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yes, that is correct. The car was imported from Miami to Denmark a little over a year ago. I bougth it from the guy who imported it, but there is no such requirement her in Denmark. So I do not think it was done here.
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Also... "Numbers Matching" means a lot of different things to different people. Some people believe it refers only to the engine stamp. Others believe it refers to ALL of the numbers that can be interrogated.... such as the transmision, differential, alternator, water pump, distributor, carburetor etc etc.
IMOP, if someone wanted to sell me a "Numbers Matching" car (and get paid accordingly), all of the numbers would have to be right, otherwise (IMOP), it's just another car.
IMOP, if someone wanted to sell me a "Numbers Matching" car (and get paid accordingly), all of the numbers would have to be right, otherwise (IMOP), it's just another car.
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yes I know, I really just want to know what engine there is in the car... And I could not figure out why the engine numbers looked as they did except if it has been restamped... Hope you can understand my english
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That stamp imho looks nothing like it's supposed to look. The Font size is defintely wrong as the VIN portion should be much smaller than the Suffix stamp and the whole Format is wrong. Also the 870 block was used in the Vette and other cars from 62-65. Looks like they left the original "FL" Engine Suffix and then ground off and restamped the VIN over where the engine assembly plant and date code is supposed to be. The smaller 41268... is the original VIN stamp that they left but don't know what it's from. A good engine from the early 60s but definitely not the original engine for your car and was originally a 327 not a 350. Post the date code from the right side of the distributor.
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Looks like someone restamped it with one of those cheap Harbor Freight stamp kits. Sometimes people restamp them after surgacing the deck, but this looks strange.
Last edited by Budman68; Dec 15, 2006 at 04:57 PM.
