C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

torque value changes

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 16, 2006 | 11:10 PM
  #1  
croaker's Avatar
croaker
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,364
Likes: 103
From: Centerville Louisiana
Default torque value changes

My question is if you use a long extension or a couple of them will it change your torque setting on your bolts?
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2006 | 11:54 PM
  #2  
Jud Chapin's Avatar
Jud Chapin
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
St. Jude 15 Year Donor
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 10,560
Likes: 439
From: Wellington, FL
St. Jude Donor '11 thru '25
Default

Yes, I understand it will change. I'm sorry but I don't know how much, but perhaps this web site will help:

http://www.specialpatrolgroup.co.uk/...ue/torque.html
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2006 | 12:01 AM
  #3  
croaker's Avatar
croaker
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,364
Likes: 103
From: Centerville Louisiana
Default

Thanks for the reply but I can't get the link to work
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2006 | 12:15 AM
  #4  
Jud Chapin's Avatar
Jud Chapin
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
St. Jude 15 Year Donor
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 10,560
Likes: 439
From: Wellington, FL
St. Jude Donor '11 thru '25
Default

That's funny, it works fine on mine. I did a Google search under "torque changes extention bar". You should be able to find something there. Anyway, that site had a formula for making the adjustments for extention bars and other tools.
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2006 | 12:36 AM
  #5  
jhuff's Avatar
jhuff
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: Oxnard/San Luis Obispo CA
Default

If you are talking about an extension or adapter or whatnot its not gonna change the reading, but if you make the handle longer or shorter it will.

In the situation of a torque wrench torque= force x (the perpendicular distance) or the length of the handle. Changing the parrallel distance (ie the # of extensions, adapters, etc.) does nothing to the torque
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2006 | 02:11 AM
  #6  
mooneyd's Avatar
mooneyd
Drifting
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,442
Likes: 2
From: Flanders NJ
Default

If you have a torque wrench on the bolt and use an extension on the handle of the torque wrench it will not change the torque at the bolt it will take less force at the end of the handle extension to get the torque reading you want. The wrench still reads what the torque at the bolt is.
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2006 | 11:21 AM
  #7  
croaker's Avatar
croaker
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,364
Likes: 103
From: Centerville Louisiana
Default

So for instance using a 18 inch extension on the torque wrench (wrench head to bolt) should not have any effect on the value? the links working this morning
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2006 | 01:12 PM
  #8  
75 Hot One's Avatar
75 Hot One
Pro
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 633
Likes: 1
From: Hamilton, ON, Canada
Default

This has come up before and someone mentioned that using an extension will increase torque required to achieve the same bolt tightening. I don't agree and can't see how it could possibly change the torque value. There are no friction losses, goemetry remains the same re torque arm. Im positive the torque required to achieve the same bolt stress is the same regardless of the length of the extension.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Dec 17, 2006 | 02:04 PM
  #9  
mandm1200's Avatar
mandm1200
Melting Slicks
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,672
Likes: 1
From: New Cumberland PA
Default

In my opinion the answer is yes, the torque will change. Will it be measurable with a 18" length extention, 1/2" drive set tightening head bolts. I don't think so.
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2006 | 04:46 PM
  #10  
jhuff's Avatar
jhuff
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: Oxnard/San Luis Obispo CA
Default

Originally Posted by croaker
So for instance using a 18 inch extension on the torque wrench (wrench head to bolt) should not have any effect on the value? the links working this morning
correct.

In my opinion the answer is yes, the torque will change. Will it be measurable with a 18" length extention, 1/2" drive set tightening head bolts. I don't think so.
I am in a statics engineering class right now and we deal with this sort of thing on a daily basis and I know for a fact that adding extensions and what not will not change the torque.
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2006 | 08:11 PM
  #11  
bob_robert's Avatar
bob_robert
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
From: henrietta texas
Default

If you are using a extension that is vertical to the TW square drive then it will not change the reading. If you are using something that changes the overall length of the torque wrench, such as a crowsfoot wrench, then the reading will change. For details of the formula to calculate the reading change setting see the web sites below.

Go to http://www.cditorque.com and click on the FAQ's tab. If you are interested go to http://www.hti.org and click on list of manufactures which shows all the major tool manufactures, what they make and what brands they own. Many of them have their web sites listed and also they have complete online catalogs.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To torque value changes





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:36 PM.

story-0
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-1
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-20 17:58:41


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-3
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette buyer's guide

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-17 16:41:08


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

Slideshow: 10 things C8 Corvette owners hate, but won't tell you.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-01 18:36:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

Slideshow: Should you add one of these incredible Corvettes to your garage?

By Brett Foote | 2026-04-01 18:14:05


VIEW MORE
story-7
Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

Slideshow: Every Corvette Grand Sport explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-26 07:13:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

Slideshow: Breaking down the 2027 Grand Sport, Grand Sport X, Stingray, and LS6 V8.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-03-26 13:48:45


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

Slideshow: 5 reasons bad drivers crash sports cars & 5 ways to avoid a costly shame!

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-25 16:32:55


VIEW MORE