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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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I am looking to replace my radiator fan to a 16in electric. I found this fan on ebay that comes with the sensor for it. Does this look like a good deal. I know I would still need to buy some relays for it.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 01:51 AM
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I never heard of that brand. Does it fit in a C3? 3000cfm should be enough cooling though. Most articles I've read, recommend Spal dual fans; and there are also dual flexolite fans, but the cfm is down to about 2200. So the fit, your size engine, weather conditions and driving habits are all important considerations.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 07:12 AM
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I have a 16 inch Spal fan that I will sell you. I ran it for a year on my stock LT1 radiator and it kept my 350 cool with no problem. When I went to the 383 I went to a aluminum rad. and dual fans. I'm surethe single would have worked just wanted more. It even has the brackets to mount on the rad. If you are interested send me a PM and I can take a few pics. I'll check on the relays. I might have used them for the new setup.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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I think that is the same fan I have in my '80. It works great and has not problem keeping my GMPP 350 HO engine cool even idling aroung on a hot day in August. My only complaint is that the grate is a little flimsy where it meets the shroud.

I went with a single fan instead of duals so that some of the radiator was not blocked by the electric fan shroud to get some air flowing through the radiator without the fan running. The fan usually runs only when I'm stopped.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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That ebay fan has a temp switch that closes at 180F ... suggest at 180F that fan might run most of the time. Also, you should verify if you have 3/8-18 port that switch requires.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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Do an Ebay or salvage yard search for a Ford / Lincoln MarkVIII fan. It's 18" blades move almost 4000 CFM, and will roll a bowling ball up a hill. Plus, it's cheaper than the auction you found, has a shroud built right in, and fits like a glove in a C3, over a stock radiator. The controllers sold with most of the Ebay fans are junk. Spend a few bucks on a really good variable speed pulse controller. If you go that route, PM me for the link to the fan controller. You can use a cheapo controller for that MarkVIII fan, but when the fan kicks in and shuts off is key to optimal operating temps.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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I have a Mark VIII fan I will sell for $75.00 plus freight.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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I have the Taurus version...17", built in shroud, and 3000 cfm...I'll sell it too. Just PM me.
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With 3000 CFM you won't be able to hear your engine running...going to sound like a jet taking off (not quite that bad )

I have a 2350 and it is louder thean the SC that I paid big bucks to hear whine......
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Originally Posted by Hvymtlc5
With 3000 CFM you won't be able to hear your engine running...going to sound like a jet taking off (not quite that bad )

I have a 2350 and it is louder thean the SC that I paid big bucks to hear whine......

That's why you keep your foot in the throttle and you won't hear the fan. Trust me.
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Install sidepipes, that will take care of any engine noise you may be hering.

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To run the electric fan will I need to upgrade my alternator? I originally haven't thought about the electrical load.
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Originally Posted by 79corvette
To run the electric fan will I need to upgrade my alternator? I originally haven't thought about the electrical load.

That's very easy and cheap to do. A CS130 will bolt right in and give you 100+ amps at idle. A CS144 will fit if you move the upper bracket down an inch.

The wiring is easy, with a plug from Autozone, $4, you can convert the two wire SI plug to the CS plug for the new CS alternator. Easy and cheap.
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I'm running Flex-a-lite's 210 off a 70 amo alt. 4 my big block n she never gets over 190.......I was told that it's not so much the cfm's but the surface area that's covered.....Jerrylee///
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Originally Posted by jerrylee
I'm running Flex-a-lite's 210 off a 70 amo alt. 4 my big block n she never gets over 190.......I was told that it's not so much the cfm's but the surface area that's covered.....Jerrylee///

That's very true...surface area, CFM, shrouding, and avoiding air leaking above or beside the radiator will get you a low operating temp.
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
That's very easy and cheap to do. A CS130 will bolt right in and give you 100+ amps at idle. A CS144 will fit if you move the upper bracket down an inch.

The wiring is easy, with a plug from Autozone, $4, you can convert the two wire SI plug to the CS plug for the new CS alternator. Easy and cheap.
You found a SI/CS conversion plug at Autozone? When I asked they looked at me like I was speaking Swahili.

I think I'm going to get a new alternator bracket cut with the extra length and the slighly larger adjustment slot. The way I have it tinkered together right now seems to work, though.
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Originally Posted by I'm Batman
You found a SI/CS conversion plug at Autozone? When I asked they looked at me like I was speaking Swahili.

I think I'm going to get a new alternator bracket cut with the extra length and the slighly larger adjustment slot. The way I have it tinkered together right now seems to work, though.

I cut mine down a lot, but I also installed a case with 2 and 6 clocking. A 12 and 6 clocking would work perfectly I think, and maybe the lower arm wouldn't have to be lowered.

At Autozone, they have the plug, but I didn't ask. I just looked, and found the CS plug.
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I too, bought a 16" Zirgo. It is sitting in my garage looking for a home. My 383 would not stay cool using it. I then put together a shroud to use with it. Better results, but not good for long driving - it still got hot.

I pulled it, put in dual spals, and have ABSOLUTLEY NO cooling problems since. With AC on, or off I run at 180-185 all day long.

I asked the SPAL vendor about the CFM ratings because the Zirgo has such a high rating. I was told that they are comparing apples to oranges: The Zirgo rating is for the fan with nothing to block the air...like a radiator or shroud. The Spal rating is installed, on a radiator. That is why the Spal rating is lower CFM than the Zirgo.

Dunno how true ANY of that is, but it sounded like comparing Gross HP rating on an engine to NET horsepower. Made sense at the time.

For whatever the reason, my dual spals keep my stroker cool as it needs to be. And I too, have a 16" Zirgo for sale.
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Great advice. Stay away from fans without a shroud unless it's fan diameter is close to that of the dimensions of the radiator.
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