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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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im starting a fresh motor build for my 1980 vette and want to know the best plug style straight or angle? i was looking to afr but it seems all there heads come angle?why? they said straights r custom order.my current setup is straight and they work with my headers. please explain pro and cons thanks
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My understanding is that angle plug heads might have a slight performance advantage (but minimal). However, some type of headers don't work too well with angle plugs (i.e. Hooker sidepipe headers)...
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Angle plug heads have many advantages. Including location of the spark in the chamber and the use of deep reach 3/4 inch plug threads.
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Originally Posted by GrandSportC3
However, some type of headers don't work too well with angle plugs (i.e. Hooker sidepipe headers)...
Don't know if AFR's plug location is the same, but GM angle plug heads work fine with Hooker sidemounts.
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Originally Posted by bashcraft
.....................GM angle plug heads work fine with Hooker sidemounts.


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Originally Posted by bashcraft
Don't know if AFR's plug location is the same, but GM angle plug heads work fine with Hooker sidemounts.
That number 2 plug will be awfully close to the header pipe... I have ZZ4 heads on my yellow '68 and the #1 plug is way too close to the pipe.. It works but I'm not too comfortable about that.. I might go with shorty spark plugs..
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Angle plug heads have many advantages. Including location of the spark in the chamber and the use of deep reach 3/4 inch plug threads.
I'm using 3/4 inch plug reach on my straight heads without a problem...
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I'm using 3/4 inch plug reach on my straight heads without a problem...
Generally - Stock type straight plug heads use a short reach or tappered type plug.
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Originally Posted by bashcraft
Don't know if AFR's plug location is the same, but GM angle plug heads work fine with Hooker sidemounts.
my hooker side mounts worked fine and bolted streight into my 210 afr heads...instead, i had to heavily modify my new hooker headers for an undercarriage exhaust.
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Originally Posted by gkull
Generally - Stock type straight plug heads use a short reach or tappered type plug.
hmmm.. I have Dart Pro 1 230 cc heads with straight plugs and the .750reach plugs work just fine for me...

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Spark Plug Thread Size: 14mm
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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Dart 215s straight with Hooker Comp pipes. No plug access problem.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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I have dart 215 angle plug heads with Hooker super comps. A couple of the plugs are pretty close but with the slip on high temp sleeves I have had no problems.
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 05:25 AM
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Does anyone have an idea what good plugs would be for Bow Tie cast iron cylinder head 14011034. These are installed on a blower engine.

Thanks
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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with all the wait time for afr i will probably go dart unless someone makes a good argument to wait. been batteling in my head about 383vs 406. tell me if im right 383=200cc 406=215cc generally speaking for limited street/strip.
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My first 383 had Dart pro 1 215 CC with the optional 2.08/1.625 valves with the factory porting. They were actually 221 cc as I got them.

It was good running motor with a solid roller. Of course it need more so I upped the cam duration and installed the dart 227 cc heads. I'm still driving it today like that today with a 5 speed.

I would use 200+cc on 383's
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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gkull, were do u suggest i look for factory port&polish models? i was not aware that was availible for the smaller heads. what rpms do u spin a 383 215cc motor?
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