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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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Is a T10 similar to a T5 with regards to the work involved in swapping from an auto?
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 81cali
Is a T10 similar to a T5 with regards to the work involved in swapping from an auto?

It's not that bad, and I assume you are speaking of a GM T5 right? Do an advanced search, check the archive box, and use words like GM T5 and Chevy and swap. You'll get loads of info.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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Thanks Durango. We just purchased the kit from crazy81 to do the swap. It's a T10
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 81cali
Thanks Durango. We just purchased the kit from crazy81 to do the swap. It's a T10

Okay, how about beginning with what came in the kit?
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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The most important differences between the T5 and the T10:

The T5 is an extremely weak, easy to blow up trans that has an overdrive.

The T10 is an extremely strong, durable trans that does not have an overdrive.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 45ACP
The T5 is an extremely weak, easy to blow up trans that has an overdrive.

So this is why so many forum members have used the T5 behind super charged motors and high HP engines for many miles with no problems? I think the durability comes into question when people don't know how to properly drive or operate that transmission.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Okay, how about beginning with what came in the kit?
He posted pics in "parts for sale" under 4 speed conversion page# 3
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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So this is why so many forum members have used the T5 behind super charged motors and high HP engines for many miles with no problems? I think the durability comes into question when people don't know how to properly drive or operate that transmission.
i have a T5 behind my tvr griffith..i've already blow its differential once but the trans, after 10 years (!!) of getting fearless job, is still there as fresh as new...
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Gentlemen, I'm not here to rain on your parade. Honestly.

It is well know in the automotive industry (tranny shops) that the T5 was an awful tranny. I have literally stood at the base of a mountain of them, every one of them blown.

I won't try to convince you here, I haven't the time, so I'll just ask you to do a search in various Camaro and Mustang forums. What you will find out is that when they are driven with any aggression, the inherent weaknesses show up very quickly. At best, the reliability is spotty. Third gear, guys. Third gear.

My point is this: there are other OD trannies available that are far better choices.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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Gentlemen, I'm not here to rain on your parade. Honestly.

It is well know in the automotive industry (tranny shops) that the T5 was an awful tranny. I have literally stood at the base of a mountain of them, every one of them blown.

I won't try to convince you here, I haven't the time, so I'll just ask you to do a search in various Camaro and Mustang forums. What you will find out is that when they are driven with any aggression, the inherent weaknesses show up very quickly. At best, the reliability is spotty. Third gear, guys. Third gear.

My point is this: there are other OD trannies available that are far better choices.
the T5 needs to be understood, the hand has to follow its internal curves with a mix of gentleness and strength, like a fist in a silk glove... third is the most delicate of all, it will resist a hard streight up push given by a heavy blind hand and eventually will fall down like a leaf in autumn, rear gear is also delicate, first/fourth and fifth are smooth like butter.
as i said my T5 is still there and i've raced all cars up to the last dog with my griffith
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Originally Posted by panic
the T5 needs to be understood, the hand has to follow its internal curves with a mix of gentleness and strength, like a fist in a silk glove... third is the most delicate of all, it will resist a hard streight up push given by a heavy blind hand and eventually will fall down like a leaf in autumn, rear gear is also delicate, first/fourth and fifth are smooth like butter.
as i said my T5 is still there and i've raced all cars up to the last dog with my griffith

Wow Panic...I wish I could talk like you. I'd have eight wives and twice as many girlfriends.
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Wow Panic...I wish I could talk like you. I'd have eight wives and twice as many girlfriends.
so, you're lucky you don't, otherwise you would be dead meat by now!!
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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so, you're lucky you don't, otherwise you would be dead meat by now!!

Yeah, I'm very lucky with the one girl I have. We enjoyed that wine very much by the way..thank you again.

As far as the T5...yes, it can fail very easily, but only if abused or run too hard going from 3rd to 4th. That's the weak link, but the type of driving that kills T5s is not recommended by any of the transmission manufacturers.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 81cali
Is a T10 similar to a T5 with regards to the work involved in swapping from an auto?
So, if ya wanna beat on it I'd go for the T10,,,Peace,,,Moosie
P.S. and yes, if I ever get the ambition I am going to have a ST10 behind my 350.
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so, you're lucky you don't, otherwise you would be dead meat by now!!
Dead Meat......I GET IT!!!!!!!
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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Dead Meat......I GET IT!!!!!!!
hope durango got it too...(it was a bad joke)
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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The T5 is a great cheap swap especially if you are building a car for touring/cruising. If you want to race it you can build the T5 to handle anything you throw at it. Then it would cost as much as the beefier trannys. Speed shifting into 3rd gear is the only weak point of the tranny, but I have seen many 4 speed trannys out of GTOs, Chevelles, Camaros and others in broken piles too because of abuse. Build it like you drive it and if you abuse it none of them will last.
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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I recently purchased a T5 trans from a scrap yard for $300.00 from a '93 Mustang. Being a used part, I wanted to know that is was O.K. before I installed it. So I have it taken apart and the guy tells me that it looks as good as new. He tells me that IF I want, he can make the trans almost bullit proof for about $1400.00. So I ask what is "bullit proof"? He says that if I were a serious racer(which I am not) He would build it for that price and if ever, while he is still alive, there was a problem he would rebuild the entire trans for no charge. He says that he has done this for a few guys and yes a few of them have intentialy tried to break it to no avail. Now I'm sure he must have had a few let loose, but this guy does this as a sole source of income, and he sure doesn't seem to be starving, if you know what I mean. so with Norval running his with massive H.P. and a guy that backs his product I see no reason at all why a guy like me can't do this swap for around $1000.00 and drive it till the day I die. And may I add that any time you can put a 5 speed into a car that should have had a 5 speed in the first place for $1000.00 to $1500.00 JUMP ON IT !!!!!!!!!!!
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT!!!!(That was my best Forrest Gump)
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Old Jan 25, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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I have a 89 mustang with a nitrous 355, full cage, 4 link and it had slick for years, pulled wheels all the time and the original 89 T5 is still in there and working great.
I ran a 89 T5 behind my nitrous bigblock for a season and upgraded to the tremec because I got a real good buck from a mustang guy for that T5.
I also have 2 friends with nothing for motors and each blows one each year. It is all in how you shift them. Go crazy and power shift and a lowly 302 will destroy them. Shift properly and a nitrous bigblock can't hurt them.
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.....I also have 2 friends with nothing for motors and each blows one each year. It is all in how you shift them. Go crazy and power shift and a lowly 302 will destroy them. Shift properly and a nitrous bigblock can't hurt them.
as i said, your hand must know how to follow its internal curves and understand its 'feelings', then you have a fearless friend, otherwise it'll reject any blind hand intrusion and will soon fall apart

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