C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

tubular a-arm drive test

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 02:55 PM
  #1  
panic's Avatar
panic
Thread Starter
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 20,715
Likes: 25
From: Sorrento Italy
Default tubular a-arm drive test

just coming back from a night ride to test the new vansteel tubular a-arms...it could be because my old stock arms bushing were pretty much deteriorated or only because the a-arms new geometry (or because both iussues) but as a matter of fact the ride on bends is much more precise, specially under throttle load at the exits, previously i had to 'compensate' a noticeable swing and loose of control, now i have the car chassis more precise on the tarmac and obbeys to any slight movement of the driving wheel in a more sincere way...

just my 2 cents

Last edited by panic; Jan 26, 2007 at 03:09 PM.
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 03:01 PM
  #2  
Twin_Turbo's Avatar
Twin_Turbo
Race Director
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 16,945
Likes: 9
Default

new geometry? are the ball joints taller or is the cross shaft dropped?
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 03:05 PM
  #3  
panic's Avatar
panic
Thread Starter
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 20,715
Likes: 25
From: Sorrento Italy
Default

Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
new geometry? are the ball joints taller or is the cross shaft dropped?
they're precisely the same and bolt streight in , just moved the wheels slightly backward...
wasnt 'geometry' the proper name?
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 03:09 PM
  #4  
Twin_Turbo's Avatar
Twin_Turbo
Race Director
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 16,945
Likes: 9
Default

oh more, caster. OK provides a little mroe stability on the straight and a teeny bit more camber gain.
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 03:12 PM
  #5  
panic's Avatar
panic
Thread Starter
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 20,715
Likes: 25
From: Sorrento Italy
Default

Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
oh more, caster. OK provides a little mroe stability on the straight and a teeny bit more camber gain.
also, my old arms rubber bushings were in bad conditions (the left one was quite deteriorated...), new arms came with polybushing so part of the 'gains' could have come from that iussue too...
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 03:19 PM
  #6  
Twin_Turbo's Avatar
Twin_Turbo
Race Director
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 16,945
Likes: 9
Default

if your upper arms are that bad, better do something about the lowers also...especially if the underside of the car is oily. The oil will swell the bushings and make them look better than they really are.
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 03:29 PM
  #7  
panic's Avatar
panic
Thread Starter
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 20,715
Likes: 25
From: Sorrento Italy
Default

Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
if your upper arms are that bad, better do something about the lowers also...especially if the underside of the car is oily. The oil will swell the bushings and make them look better than they really are.
T/T, thanks for the advice, appreciate it.

anyway the lower arms are pretty new and polibushed, they came in the 'front transverse monospring full kit' that i just bought last year.
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 03:31 PM
  #8  
Twin_Turbo's Avatar
Twin_Turbo
Race Director
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 16,945
Likes: 9
Default

Oh you have those...okay
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 03:56 PM
  #9  
calwldlife's Avatar
calwldlife
Team Owner
15 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 53,648
Likes: 878
From: Southern Cal Ca
St. Jude Donor '22
Default

I am curious about the alignment specs you used.
To all members here: do you have stock or performance
alignments?
I have a agressive align and have bump steer,
well worth it to me
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 03:59 PM
  #10  
Twin_Turbo's Avatar
Twin_Turbo
Race Director
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 16,945
Likes: 9
Default

you have bump steer and like it? As for the alignment, it has no influence on the amount of bumpsteer, it's a geometry incompatability issue between the tie rods and upper and lower control arm.
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 04:03 PM
  #11  
panic's Avatar
panic
Thread Starter
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 20,715
Likes: 25
From: Sorrento Italy
Default

Originally Posted by calwldlife
I am curious about the alignment specs you used.
To all members here: do you have stock or performance
alignments?
I have a agressive align and have bump steer,
well worth it to me
what alignment figures you've got?
i've changed mine so many times and have gone to so many different shops to do it, there is always something that does not satisfy me, i'm still looking for the 'ultimate' alignment but maybe it doesnt exist!
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 04:03 PM
  #12  
calwldlife's Avatar
calwldlife
Team Owner
15 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 53,648
Likes: 878
From: Southern Cal Ca
St. Jude Donor '22
Default

OK not bump steer, follows the road.
Bad term, my fault.
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 09:17 PM
  #13  
74L82Cpe's Avatar
74L82Cpe
Intermediate
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
From: Birmingham AL
Default

Not intending to change the subject, Panic. But, since you mentioned it, do you know what the spring rates are on your front monospring at the different settings? I'm especially interested in what the "heaviest" spring rate setting is.

Thanks!
Reply
Old Jan 27, 2007 | 08:31 AM
  #14  
MN80Vette's Avatar
MN80Vette
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,986
Likes: 21
From: Columbus MN
Default

Originally Posted by 74L82Cpe
Not intending to change the subject, Panic. But, since you mentioned it, do you know what the spring rates are on your front monospring at the different settings? I'm especially interested in what the "heaviest" spring rate setting is.
I asked VBP the same question when I was installing my monoleaf conversion. Here's what they said:
Our front monospring system has the four position adjustments for spring rate. When explaining the positions, I use our fixed rate rear spring rates as a basis.

For example, the first position (the innermost two positions) would be like our 300# spring, a very, soft comfortable ride for the earlier Corvettes.

The second position outward, is where you would start since you have a 1980, and that would be like our 330# spring and would be a comfortable, street driving ride.

The third position out would be similar to our 360# spring that is a little stiffer and lower for light autocrossing and racing.

The fourth position would equate to our extreme spring and would have the lowest arch and highest rate for serious and drag racing, similar to our 420#.
Reply
Old Jan 27, 2007 | 11:44 AM
  #15  
panic's Avatar
panic
Thread Starter
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 20,715
Likes: 25
From: Sorrento Italy
Default

Originally Posted by MN80Vette
I asked VBP the same question when I was installing my monoleaf conversion. Here's what they said:
Our front monospring system has the four position adjustments for spring rate. When explaining the positions, I use our fixed rate rear spring rates as a basis.

For example, the first position (the innermost two positions) would be like our 300# spring, a very, soft comfortable ride for the earlier Corvettes.

The second position outward, is where you would start since you have a 1980, and that would be like our 330# spring and would be a comfortable, street driving ride.

The third position out would be similar to our 360# spring that is a little stiffer and lower for light autocrossing and racing.

The fourth position would equate to our extreme spring and would have the lowest arch and highest rate for serious and drag racing, similar to our 420#.
perfect...
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2007 | 02:05 PM
  #16  
74L82Cpe's Avatar
74L82Cpe
Intermediate
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
From: Birmingham AL
Default

Originally Posted by MN80Vette
I asked VBP the same question when I was installing my monoleaf conversion. Here's what they said:
Our front monospring system has the four position adjustments for spring rate. When explaining the positions, I use our fixed rate rear spring rates as a basis.

For example, the first position (the innermost two positions) would be like our 300# spring, a very, soft comfortable ride for the earlier Corvettes.

The second position outward, is where you would start since you have a 1980, and that would be like our 330# spring and would be a comfortable, street driving ride.

The third position out would be similar to our 360# spring that is a little stiffer and lower for light autocrossing and racing.

The fourth position would equate to our extreme spring and would have the lowest arch and highest rate for serious and drag racing, similar to our 420#.

Thanks for the info! I take it that they were comparing the performance levels with which rear springs the front monospring settings would go with. I asked the question once on the phone with VB&P and did not get as specific a response as you did. I interpret their response to mean that the 2nd position would be somewhat comparable to their 460 front coil more or less and the 3rd position would be like their 550 coil and the 4th position would be even stiffer. They really need to put that type of info on this spring in their product description.

Last edited by 74L82Cpe; Jan 28, 2007 at 02:09 PM.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To tubular a-arm drive test





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:46 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE