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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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As far as I know there are 3 ways to do this....

1. Headers going into side pipes. (4 pipes coming from under car)

2. Exhaust pipes from original exhaust manifolds going into sidepipes (1 pipe coming from under car)

3. Exhaust pipes with 3 'fake' pipes going into side pipes. (Looks like 1. but its realy 2.)
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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If you decide to get the Hooker system I did it with just a standard jack to lift as high as possible to get the manifold under the car and in place, then put the car on a jackstand, and had a buddy grab them as I fed them up to him. Really straight foward procedure. It fits like a puzzle on the driverside, only one way in past the powersteering. Since I don't have a heater core I can't say how tough it is on the pass side.

AND YES, SIDEPIPES RULE!!!!!
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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I just made the move to sidepipes on my '75 about a month ago.

I went with the Hooker headers to sidepipe setup. I bought everything I thought I would need in advance, Hooker PS mount, Hooker AC mount, gaskets and bolts.

The whole thing went much much better than I could have ever imagined. I've done exhaust work before and snapped manifold bolts, smashed knuckles, you name it.... These things went in like they had eyes. The only thing I had to do was take the Dremel tool to a couple of the flange bolt holes to get the to align with the head.

I did have a bigger issue getting the rocker moldings back on after the pipes were installed. That was a bit of a PITA.

I got the ceramic coating and they are hot after a ride, but believe me, you or your wife will only touch them once...

I agree with the value question. '75's aren't really on the "collector" side of things and seriously doubt they will ever get to the same stature as a 67 or 71 big block. They were the first year for the dreaded converter, but who cares. I drive mine every day the sun is out and they aren't calling for rain.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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being the cheap SOB that i am i went with the patriots,
i like the single look pipe better and was able to buy them
for $205 shipped from jegs and another $140 to have them
properly hooked up after i installed them.

and like i always say


"Corvettes NEED sidepipes" but thats just my opinion.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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Does anyone have any good data on how sidepipes affect engine performance? I think they look and sound great, but at what price?
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by gatorbcn
Does anyone have any good data on how sidepipes affect engine performance? I think they look and sound great, but at what price?

I have heard they are better fro high RPM HP than low RPM torque. I think they can hurt you if you have a low RPM torque engine, but that the difference is hard to notice without a few runs on a dyno.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gatorbcn
Does anyone have any good data on how sidepipes affect engine performance? I think they look and sound great, but at what price?
The patriots suck for performance. The hooker system is excellent for performance if you use the hooker max flow mufflers or the spiral turbo baffles. I like the chrome ones! You got to have heat shields. They will burn down to the meat! This is the look installed.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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I'm doing the 69 factory look sidepipes on my 75. Since I'm not going to spend over $2k for the reproduction covers.. I'm having my fiberglass covers vacuum metallized and clear coated so they look chromed. I'm using Headman ceramic coated side exhaust headers and will have a custom 3" exhaust made to let the 427 exhale (3.5 in mufflers will fit under the covers). Just wanted to keep the heat from under the car... Just another option to the leg burners

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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jim2527
As far as I know there are 3 ways to do this....

1. Headers going into side pipes. (4 pipes coming from under car)

2. Exhaust pipes from original exhaust manifolds going into sidepipes (1 pipe coming from under car)

3. Exhaust pipes with 3 'fake' pipes going into side pipes. (Looks like 1. but its realy 2.)
Well.. a 4th option is what I just posted.. factory looking exhaust covers with headmans (or Stahls .. someday.. when I collect all my pennies.. ) and a custom set of pipes. Any decent muffler shop should be able to make the pipes.. as long as you have mufflers to fit.

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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by chstitans42
What about texas? the police do the same thing here. How would you find out such a thing?
Im out of fort worth and i have the hooker headers and side pipes.. All the police i have asked about the laws behind having pipes in texas have said that its not illegal. And i have never had any trouble with the cops when i was out on the road.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 11:33 PM
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.. and texas safety inspection only checks for cats on cars 25years or newer. Mine passed with the cheap ol ecklers/midamerica/zip etc chambered exhaust.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 11:42 PM
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They look nice and sound great BUT. I find it impossible to get the jack under the frame and that is without a flat tire. Mine are coming off.
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 12:00 AM
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Really? They look soooo good though... If you have factory side exhaust and want to get rid of them - I may be interested in buying what ya got.

Iree........let me see when you are done...
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 12:09 AM
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chs - are you planning on going to the GTG at hooters in Grapevine on the 18th? http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1641882

I'm going to drive my '71 with the Hookers I just installed - just passed inspection 2 weeks ago here in Allen. You can hear them first-hand from outside and inside the car. I LOVE them...
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 01:29 AM
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The hooker side pipes look, sound great and perform good. There are several add on heat shields available to protect from getting burned.

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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Artsvette73
They look nice and sound great BUT. I find it impossible to get the jack under the frame and that is without a flat tire. Mine are coming off.

Drive up on to a couple 2x6s then jack it. Unless you just want to sell them, I'm sure a few here will offer to buy them.

I love mine!

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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 03:55 AM
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I love side pipes - they sound so good on a trip I never listen to any music

You have to have good insulators or covers as your calves hit them more often than you think - but if done properly the covers are only warm.

I'm going through hell at present trying to restore my original 69 side pipe covers - you name it they've got it wrong with them, stress cracks in the alloy, rivet holes drilled in them, snapped off bolts in the alloy lugs, insulators glued to covers, the list goes on........

The end result will be like ******** Cindy Crawford, expensive but worth the wait

here's my original cry for help HERE

If you can get pipes like in the post above - what stopping you ? they look amazing !!
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 04:31 AM
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Artsvette73
They look nice and sound great BUT. I find it impossible to get the jack under the frame and that is without a flat tire. Mine are coming off.

Coming off?? I'll definitely jump in that line and say, "how much!?!" if you're looking to sell.
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Vettes and sidepipes are a natural. I really love the appearance of factory designed sidepipes for C3, but they are more restrictive than basic under the car exhaust and very expensive. Expect to pay $2k for a set with the metal covers, plus installation if you are not a diy kind of guy. Hooker sidemounts are a good performance option because of the size of the exhaust (4"). There are various muffler options for the Hookers that have different effects on noise and perfomance. I have an off the shelf chrome set of Hookers, and my only disappointment was in the replacement ac compressor bracket. I have seen some solutions here on the forum that allow you to retain the stock bracket, which is far more heavy duty than the Hooker replacement piece.

Here is a pic of forum member Jughead's C3 w/factory sidepipes. A really sweet looking ride.

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