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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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I'm looking at getting a new car for the 454 but I'm a little bit at a loss of what to get. Its a pretty much stock 73 engine only has headers and a mild cam the PO put in it. I'm thinking I want to go the double pumper route but could be persuaded otherwise I guess. When I originally looked at it I was going to go with a 750 dp but was told to go bigger and go around 950. I was talking about it with a guy at work today who has been doing racing and the sort for around 20 years and he said he though I shouldn't go any bigger than 750...now I'm just confused and don't have a clue. Suggestions? Oppinions?
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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I have a 770 Holley Street Avenger on my mild 454.Other than the occasional choke coil acting up(more likely a wiring issue),it seems to work fine.A 750 DP will probably use a lot more fuel and a 950 is waay too big for what you want to do.However unless the baseplate is totally junk on that Q-jet,I would just have a good carb guy rebuild it,I doubt you will get any more power with a new carb.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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I have a 770 Holley Street Avenger on my mild 454.Other than the occasional choke coil acting up(more likely a wiring issue),it seems to work fine.A 750 DP will probably use a lot more fuel and a 950 is waay too big for what you want to do.However unless the baseplate is totally junk on that Q-jet,I would just have a good carb guy rebuild it,I doubt you will get any more power with a new carb.
Someone who owned the car before me switched to ls6 intake and holley carb. It was a 750cfm 4160 vaccum secondary. I say was because they tried to convert it to a mechanical secondary...and didn't succeed. My same buddy at work says he thinks he can straighten out the carb, but I'm exploring my options, and think I might want true mechancial secondary anyways.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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Go get you a Holley 4779 (750cfm). Consider an electric choke model. If you went the 4160 route, you'd want to look at a vintage 3310-1 as the preferred vacuum secondary model due to its downleg boosters and factory secondary metering block. But these are swap meet or ebay only at this point in their lives.

Your engine is for the most part, stock. I wouldn't go any bigger than a 4780 (800cfm) double pumper Holley.

If your buddy is good, he can return the current 4160 back to stock, more or less, but it depends on what's been fiddled with on it. If it has drilled-out fuel and air bleeds, then it's going to be a big problem. Most people converted these carbs to mechanical secondary by just putting a screw in the secondary lever. Not very clever, but it was how Bubba used to do it. You just take the screw out and it's back to normal.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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You didn't say if your car is an auto or a 4 speed. With an auto, I'd go with a vacuum secondary carb. The carb can sense when it needs the extra kick from the secondaries a lot better to match the load and trans gear. I've got an 850 Demon on my BB, but I'm also running big heads, big cam and lots of compression. All around driveability will suffer if you get too big a carb. I've had a 650 on mine and it was wicked-- until 5000 RPM. With the 850, it's pretty soft until I get to 3000-3500 RPM and then it rocks pretty good. I've seen the tach at 8000, but I really try to not go there.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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You didn't say if your car is an auto or a 4 speed. With an auto, I'd go with a vacuum secondary carb. The carb can sense when it needs the extra kick from the secondaries a lot better to match the load and trans gear. I've got an 850 Demon on my BB, but I'm also running big heads, big cam and lots of compression. All around driveability will suffer if you get too big a carb. I've had a 650 on mine and it was wicked-- until 5000 RPM. With the 850, it's pretty soft until I get to 3000-3500 RPM and then it rocks pretty good. I've seen the tach at 8000, but I really try to not go there.
It's a 4 speed. It'll be used mostly for street driving, but hopefully some track time in the not too distant future.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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People usually put too big a carb on engines thinking bigger hast to be better. This is not always the case.

The Q-Jet has a bad reputation but I think it is a great carb. Small primaries allow good cruising. Vacuum secondaries open as you need them and have plenty of oomph.

I believe the Q-Jet is 750 cfm. Plenty of carb for your use.

I bought a Q-Jet for my 72 454 at Auto Zone. Reasonable price.
My old carb was not original and we could not find a s/n or model # on it anywhere.

I will probably send off the "new" carb to be finetuned and checked out. Plus it has an unfinished silver color instead of the gold color it should be.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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Not sure what intake you're palnning, but take in to consideration your hood clearance. And if you wish to run the stock cowl induction set-up, you're likely stuck with a GM spread-bore intake for Vettes.

I second the Q-Jet opinion above,..great carb for what you're doing.
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I have a brand new Holley 750 double pump carb in stock. Give me a call at 260 244-4808 for a great price. Thanks. Bob
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On my 454 I have a Holley 770 Street Avenger that Lars rejetted with 74's in the primary and 81's in the secondary with a lighter secondary spring. With the dist. curve that we also done, when you stick your foot in it, you better hold on! Big Blocks Rule I also have a 4spd car.
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