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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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After getting lots of advice and suggestions from forum members I have decided to replace my current L48 bottom end with a rebuilt 350 shortblock with flat top pistons.

Any suggestions on the specs I should be looking for and most importantly the names of reputable vendors would be greatly appreciated. Are there any forum members that do this type of work?
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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After getting lots of advice and suggestions from forum members I have decided to replace my current L48 bottom end with a rebuilt 350 shortblock with flat top pistons.

Any suggestions on the specs I should be looking for and most importantly the names of reputable vendors would be greatly appreciated. Are there any forum members that do this type of work?

Do you have a budget? There are a lot of really good GM short block crate motors available ranging from low to high prices. Here's a good example.

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/350-...041-P18C2.aspx

There are cheaper but this one will perform good.
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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Thanks for the info. That configuration is more than I need.

All I need is the block, and a balanced rotating assembly with flat tops to get me around a 10 CR with 64cc heads. I already have the cam, intake, heads, timing set, etc...

Most of the shortblocks I have seen online that are just the block and rotating assembly have been around $700-$1000. I am just not comfortable buying without the benefit of a recommendation from a forum member.

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No problem. Have you considered having your current block machined and balanced with new parts? A local machine shop can do all the work or split the work with you.

I find that's almost more fun even than buying a short block assembled.
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http://paceperformance.com/index.asp...&ProdID=183227

http://paceperformance.com/index.asp...D&ProdID=22861

http://paceperformance.com/index.asp...&ProdID=132130

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No problem. Have you considered having your current block machined and balanced with new parts? A local machine shop can do all the work or split the work with you.
I have considered that but I was thinking of just pulling the original motor and putting it away. I could then install my new top end components on the shortblock in my garage without having to teardown the original. Since I am replacing the entire top end and bottom end it just did not seem to make sense to also tear the motor down.

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Thanks - those are just the type of options I was looking for.
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Thanks - those are just the type of options I was looking for.
Notice that Pace also offers free-shipping inside the Continential 48 States, too.
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Notice that Pace also offers free-shipping inside the Continential 48 States, too.
That is a really big benefit. Most of the online speed shops are price competitive but the shipping costs are typically $200-$300 extra.
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TheEnginestore or MandRengines - they sell on Ebay.

Keep in mind that a 383 shortblock (or a 396) is not much more expensive than the 350 ....
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TheEnginestore or MandRengines - they sell on Ebay.

Keep in mind that a 383 shortblock (or a 396) is not much more expensive than the 350 ....
Many people have told me that but I have consistently found that the 383 shortblock is at least 50% more expensive. If you know of a place where this is not true please let me know.
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Originally Posted by myc3
That is a really big benefit. Most of the online speed shops are price competitive but the shipping costs are typically $200-$300 extra.
Check this guy out.. I bought this motor a couple of years ago and it has performed flawlessly..Delivered right to my garage, not a trucking terminal..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CHEV-...mZ140089260849
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Originally Posted by OldSchool
Check this guy out.. I bought this motor a couple of years ago and it has performed flawlessly..Delivered right to my garage, not a trucking terminal..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CHEV-...mZ140089260849
Looks like a great place for a complete engine. Unfortunately all I want is a shortblock.
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Originally Posted by OldSchool
Check this guy out.. I bought this motor a couple of years ago and it has performed flawlessly..Delivered right to my garage, not a trucking terminal..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CHEV-...mZ140089260849

You can only con a greedy man. Buyer beware of the deal that is too good to be true. Has anyone bought from this vendor? There have been other companies from AZ that have produced junk!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by OldSchool
Check this guy out.. I bought this motor a couple of years ago and it has performed flawlessly..Delivered right to my garage, not a trucking terminal..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CHEV-...mZ140089260849
I bought a set of 1970 LS6 heads from him a year ago. My engine builder pulled them apart and checked the work before install ing them and they were flawless. Top shelf work!
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Originally Posted by myc3
Many people have told me that but I have consistently found that the 383 shortblock is at least 50% more expensive. If you know of a place where this is not true please let me know.
MandRengines have a 383 shortblock with cast crank on Ebay, they sell for $1500. Look at the parts that are included.
If somebody offers a 350 or 383 for $750 it has to be junk.

Here's the parts that you need:

block, machined and cleaned -> $700

cast crank $200

rods $200

pistons $150 hyper, $400 forged

timing chain set and cam $250

labor/assembly ???

I think $1500 is very reasonable for a 350 or 383, there is no signifficant differance in the $$ for the crank.
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I think it's hard to beat www.dixiemailorder.com. They are a rep for Wheeler Power Products. Here's one of their race prepped 355's that a good friend is running and it is extremely strong with his Holley Systemax II kit.

http://www.dixiemailorder.com/product.asp?intProdID=61

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I think it's hard to beat www.dixiemailorder.com. They are a rep for Wheeler Power Products. Here's one of their race prepped 355's that a good friend is running and it is extremely strong with his Holley Systemax II kit.
Reconditioned means "stock" rods - I'd ask how much they charge for an upgrade.

"fully decked" wtf ??? Is it decked to 9.000" or .005" (+/-.002) off the stock deck ???

cast rings ?? I'd upgrade to CrMo rings.

Now it's not $1399 but $1699.... now the 383 is more attractive

Not trying to be a smarta$$.... take your time, be patient.... there are good deals, there are many rip offs..... be patient
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I have a GM 290 horse crate engine like new sitting in my 1970 thats gettin ready to come out so the original motor can go back in . i bought it new a couple of years ago and havent put a 1000 miles on it . im leaving the edelbrock performer intake on it when i sell it . i gaved $1700.00 when i bought it new , but id let you have it for $1200.00 and thats with the intake . you can hear it run before i pull it . its practically brand new . i wont ship it though . youd have to pick it up . im in southern ill. hope this helps ya . ill be posting this engine for sale pretty soon so let me know .
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Reconditioned means "stock" rods - I'd ask how much they charge for an upgrade.

"fully decked" wtf ??? Is it decked to 9.000" or .005" (+/-.002) off the stock deck ???

cast rings ?? I'd upgrade to CrMo rings.

Now it's not $1399 but $1699.... now the 383 is more attractive

Not trying to be a smarta$$.... take your time, be patient.... there are good deals, there are many rip offs..... be patient
Yeah you're pretty much right there. They do offer all the nice upgrades in their "sportsman" series. BUT, stock rods are fine for "most" people. The stock deck height is 9.025 - Decking to 9.0 makes for added compression and a better baseline to make further calculations from. Deck height is the distance between the flat "quench" surface of the piston and the top of the bare cylinder (no head gasket). Typically an engine is set to zero deck height with the head gasket (compressed value) defining the "squish band" value. If the value is negative this indicates the piston's "quench" surface extends above the top of the bare cylinder.
Right again about the 383 being the better choice.

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