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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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Did anyone ever install a dry sump system in their C3, if so, is there really any advantage in using it ?
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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Unless you are racing and constantly turning a lot of rpms NO. For the street a wet sump with a good baffled pan is all you will need.
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i may be running a dry sump system, only because i got a good deal on an aluminum small block that is setup for dry sump.

otherwise i wouldn't bother.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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it's a great way to rid yourself of a bunch of those euros for sure

turtle..did you get that block fixed?
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would be cool on the street...for the race track absolutely, I wouldn`t race without one.....I have some extra dry sump stuff if anyone serious is looking for parts...three stage Weaver pump and a couple of Corvette specific oil pans and a Moon tank..... ...redvetracr
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordonm
Unless you are racing and constantly turning a lot of rpms NO. For the street a wet sump with a good baffled pan is all you will need.
What is your take on the new Z06? It uses a dry sump system and it is a street vehicle. Marketing maybe?
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Originally Posted by Oldguard 7
What is your take on the new Z06? It uses a dry sump system and it is a street vehicle. Marketing maybe?
It was also designed to race. The C5 guys are always talking about oil starvation so it is indeed a necessity to make a hot car like that live on the road course.

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i'm in no hurry to put together the aluminum engine. Sound familiar?

In the mean time i'll look for anyone that wants to trade for a wet sump

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Originally Posted by turtlevette
i may be running a dry sump system, only because i got a good deal on an aluminum small block that is setup for dry sump.

otherwise i wouldn't bother.
Is this part of the "I buy the cheapest s--t I can find" theory?
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Originally Posted by Big2Bird
Is this part of the "I buy the cheapest s--t I can find" theory?
you catch on fast......sparky!
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Ok, as i already thought the only advantage is the fact that the pan is not so large, which gives the chassisbuilder the opportunity to put the engine lower, thus resulting in better road behavior. For a normal Corvette chassis the advantage is thus 0
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Originally Posted by Big2Bird
Is this part of the "I buy the cheapest s--t I can find" theory?

actually it's more "I thought I bought the cheapest **** but I bought the wrong **** and it'll take a bunch of money to make it usable so now I'll have to patiently wait for more cheap **** to come on my path to complete it"

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Originally Posted by Belgian1979vette
Ok, as i already thought the only advantage is the fact that the pan is not so large, which gives the chassisbuilder the opportunity to put the engine lower, thus resulting in better road behavior. For a normal Corvette chassis the advantage is thus 0

There are many more advantages apart from lowering the engine, depending on the system, like rockerbox and or lifter valley scavenging, easy to plumb in spring oilers, pulling a good vacuum in the crank case (better ring seal), placing the sump tank in such a position that it improves the weight distribution......
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Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
actually it's more "I thought I bought the cheapest **** but I bought the wrong **** and it'll take a bunch of money to make it usable so now I'll have to patiently wait for more cheap **** to come on my path to complete it"
That sums it up quite well.

Anyone wanna dump a complete dry sump system for say $200?

There ain't that many cheap used aluminum wet blocks out there.
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Originally Posted by Belgian1979vette
Ok, as i already thought the only advantage is the fact that the pan is not so large, which gives the chassisbuilder the opportunity to put the engine lower, thus resulting in better road behavior. For a normal Corvette chassis the advantage is thus 0
If the engine is lower then doesn't that lower the entire drivetrain since you would want to retain the driveshaft and differential pinion angle?
Again, lowering the engine helps with the center of gravity, but even then the only place you would notice the difference is on an auto-x race track...and in that event a dry sump should be required anyway.
Lowered dry-sump engine & drivetrain and super stiff suspension would yield you a nice trackcar but not an enjoyable street car.
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200$ for a pump, tank, pulley, lines, tank, breather tank...??? ain't gonna happen.

If you lower the engine it'll still have to be at an angle, you could play around with it but it would have to be around 4 deg. down, that means the trans tailshaft will be down also, if you angle the diff up 4 deg. that can stay in place.
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Originally Posted by 68 NJConv 454
If the engine is lower then doesn't that lower the entire drivetrain since you would want to retain the driveshaft and differential pinion angle?
Again, lowering the engine helps with the center of gravity, but even then the only place you would notice the difference is on an auto-x race track...and in that event a dry sump should be required anyway.
Lowered dry-sump engine & drivetrain and super stiff suspension would yield you a nice trackcar but not an enjoyable street car.
the chassis builder wants the engine lower, the engine builder wants a deeper/wider oil pan to get the oil away from the spinning crankshaft.
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Originally Posted by turtlevette

Anyone wanna dump a complete dry sump system for say $200?

in a word "NO"....but I hope that works out for you......

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Dry sump=Dry wallet?
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Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
200$ for a pump, tank, pulley, lines, tank, breather tank...??? ain't gonna happen.
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Originally Posted by redvetracr
in a word "NO"....but I hope that works out for you......
Ya'll don't know me very well, do ya?

I'll make a tank from a coffee can before i pay more than that.

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I'd get one if it was like $500 Minus lines

Down the road

Although I may be racing something else soon that already has one plus 800 hp

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