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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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I have an oppurtunity to get a Caprice police interceptor for $500. Is it worht it to swap the motor into my '75? I'm not interested in originality. Thinking that FI would provide greater oppurtunity for power and mpg versus the L48 set-up I've got now.

It's a 5.7L tpi set-up in the Caprice.

Quick responses are needed as the car is going away quickly if I don't take it.

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The EFI is nice, but TPI gets winded at high RPMs. As a swap it's not that hard if you have the computer and harness. The block itself is the same so the accessories bolt right on.

It'll probably be a better motor than your stock '75 motor.

How much are you looking to spend on that car?
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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Do you plan to freshen up the motor? Anyway, $500 seems like a good deal for the whole car if it runs and drives. If your car is an automatic, go ahead and swap the transmission with the motor too. I've always been under the impression that the computer install is a lot of work. I have been scared of it myself. Simply due to lack of experience with it. However I have been told that "painless wiring" can make it alot easier.
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The harness can be converted to a stand alone engine harness pretty easily. The key is keeping the transmission manually controlled instead of computer controlled.
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Five Hundred for the whole car. it runs and drives fine. Owner was gonna use it as a taxi. I figure swapping the more modern trans a good idea too.
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Five Hundred for the whole car. it runs and drives fine. Owner was gonna use it as a taxi. I figure swapping the more modern trans a good idea too.

I meant the Vette. If you have a little more than $500 you have some other options. Megasquirt can be bought and used to control that TPI motor better than the stock computer and harness.

Isn't Megasquirt made by Holley?
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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Umm...No
It is however a very cool system
http://www.megasquirt.info/
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I have an oppurtunity to get a Caprice police interceptor for $500. Is it worht it to swap the motor into my '75? I'm not interested in originality. Thinking that FI would provide greater oppurtunity for power and mpg versus the L48 set-up I've got now.

It's a 5.7L tpi set-up in the Caprice.

Quick responses are needed as the car is going away quickly if I don't take it.

Thanks,

George
What year is it?. I bet it is an LT1 (PFI), not TPI.
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What's pfi?? How's it different from TPI?

Durango boy...why the interest in the $ in the '75?

I'm mostly familiar with Bosch systems for FI having been a VW/Euro tech for the last 12 years.
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I don't have a budget for the Vette, D-boy. I do have a plan that includes FI at some point. Right now I'm in the process of doing the rear wheel bearings--new spindles, etc. Then I've gotta decide if I'm going to undo the power steering and go manual with it as the power assist ram is broken. I would like to do the Jeep box conversion at some time as well.

I just wanted an idea of if it makes sense to grab the Caprice now and hold onto the drivetrain/electronics until I could actually put it into my car. And i like the serpentine belt set-up. Then try and sell off whatever possible from the caprice to recoup as much as possible. Gonna find out the year tomorrow. I forgot to ask today. The car has been sitting in the lot over from where I work and the owner of it asked if I was interested.
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What's pfi?? How's it different from TPI?

Durango boy...why the interest in the $ in the '75?

I'm mostly familiar with Bosch systems for FI having been a VW/Euro tech for the last 12 years.
TPI, used in G.M. vehicles from 1986 until around 1991. It has long externally visible intake runners. Good for up to around 5,200 rpm's and maybe 350 hp. The PFI engines took over around 1992, have shorter hidden and more efficient runners. Good for at least 6,000 rpm's and at least 425 hp. LT1's have reverse cooling of the heads, and require specific water pump and serpentine pulley arrangements.
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When I popped the hood on the Caprice a day ago(before I knew it was for sale!) I forgot to check the year. I did notice however that the runners were not obvious like on the Vettes. There were individual fuel injectors though so it definetely was not TBI. I didn't realise that they made something other than the TPI that vintage. I will give the car a thorough going over tomorrow.

Thanks for all the info.
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This is TPI.

This is LT1.
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I may be wrong here but most used police car i have seen have many, many, many hours of idle time as well as thousands of miles before they are taken out of service. I have a 93 Buick Roadmaster with a LT-1 and it was very strong at 70,000 miles when I bought it. It now has 178,000 and still runs good but does not put you back in the seat like it used to.
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It's probably a roller cam engine also that'll let you upgrade much easier down the road
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LT-1 in a caprice:

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Originally Posted by big_G
TPI, used in G.M. vehicles from 1986 until around 1991. It has long externally visible intake runners. Good for up to around 5,200 rpm's and maybe 350 hp. The PFI engines took over around 1992, have shorter hidden and more efficient runners. Good for at least 6,000 rpm's and at least 425 hp. LT1's have reverse cooling of the heads, and require specific water pump and serpentine pulley arrangements.
Actually, TPI and LT1 fuel injections systems are both PFI - port fuel injection. The other major FI system is TBI - throttle body injection. That uses a device that's something like a super-high-tech computer-controlled carburetor.
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A police interceptor for $500? That engine has to be beat to chit. Does it still run?
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Originally Posted by wwood95179@aol.com
I may be wrong here but most used police car i have seen have many, many, many hours of idle time as well as thousands of miles before they are taken out of service. .
Your NOT wrong. Those cars are beat on
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Thanks for the pic! That's the one. I would certainly freshen the motor before it went into the Vette. New rod and main bearings at least. I'm going into work early to listen to it run and check it out further. Should I do a compression check on atleast one cylinder? What should I expect to see for numbers?
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