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Old May 7, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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I put headers on my 76 and the water temp sender is picking up the heat from the headers and pinning the gauge. I used a heat gun on the thermostat housing and the temp runs 180-190, so I know the gauge is ok and the temp is ok. Where can I move the sender. There is a plug on the intake but it is under the upper rad hose and thermostat housing and will not fit. The only other plug it the top of the water pump housing, but this seems to run 10 degrees cooler. The intake is an edlebrock RPM performer.

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Old May 7, 2007 | 11:43 AM
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Maybe a sheet metal heat shield to protect the sender?
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I thought about that but it is pretty tight. If I can find another place to put it.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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Try a new sending unit. Make sure it is correct for the gage you have.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 76stingracer
Try a new sending unit. Make sure it is correct for the gage you have.
Worth a shot. It is possible to get the wrong sender, I have proven it.

First check the wire to the sender - make sure it isn't grounding to something, which may give a false signal. Have you used your heat gun to verify the temps of the sender housing and the surrounding areas? If they aren't as hot as what your gauge reads, then the headers probably aren't causing it.

I also have headers on my '76 with the sender in the stock location and no heat shielding. Have never had a problem with false readings due to external heat.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Worth a shot. It is possible to get the wrong sender, I have proven it.

First check the wire to the sender - make sure it isn't grounding to something, which may give a false signal. Have you used your heat gun to verify the temps of the sender housing and the surrounding areas? If they aren't as hot as what your gauge reads, then the headers probably aren't causing it.

I also have headers on my '76 with the sender in the stock location and no heat shielding. Have never had a problem with false readings due to external heat.
I did use a heat gun on the sender and the temp is consistant. But I may just order another one and try it. Only because I have not heard about this before and I am sure if this was a problem there would be a thread. It is the sending unit that was in the head when I got the car.
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I bought a sending unit from NAPA last year. The gage said 260 all day long. Replaced it with a correct temp range unit. Not it sits around 185 all day. The sending units and set for like 220 degree gages and 280 degree gages. Interchange the two and your reading will be way off.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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If your sender or the gauge wire is shorted, the gauge will read way hot like that. I would check that first, then get a new sender.
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Originally Posted by 76stingracer
I bought a sending unit from NAPA last year. The gage said 260 all day long. Replaced it with a correct temp range unit. Not it sits around 185 all day. The sending units and set for like 220 degree gages and 280 degree gages. Interchange the two and your reading will be way off.
I will check the short thing, But it does appear to operate normally just runs hot.

What range do I get?
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i don't think its the hedders doing this.....my replacement one was a just a stock one from NAPA
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Originally Posted by ajstr1265
I will check the short thing, But it does appear to operate normally just runs hot.

What range do I get?
Take a look at your gage. If it goes to 280 then you want a sending unit for 280.

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Old May 7, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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i don't think its the hedders doing this.....my replacement one was a just a stock one from NAPA
No way the headers are affecting the sensor reading. The part that senses the temperature is on the inside of the engine, not the back side where the wire plugs in. Either your coolant is really hot, the sensor is not correct, or there is a problem with the wiring.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ajstr1265
I put headers on my 76 and the water temp sender is picking up the heat from the headers and pinning the gauge. I used a heat gun on the thermostat housing and the temp runs 180-190, so I know the gauge is ok and the temp is ok. Where can I move the sender. There is a plug on the intake but it is under the upper rad hose and thermostat housing and will not fit. The only other plug it the top of the water pump housing, but this seems to run 10 degrees cooler. The intake is an edlebrock RPM performer.

Any ideas?
How about putting it in the head on the passenger side and running the wire over there.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 08:31 AM
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No way the headers are affecting the sensor reading. The part that senses the temperature is on the inside of the engine, not the back side where the wire plugs in. Either your coolant is really hot, the sensor is not correct, or there is a problem with the wiring.
The more I thought about it the more I agree with this. If the headers were the problem, I would not be the only one to have this and there would be more threads about. I used the original sender that was in the car, but something could have happened to it sitting around.

Thanks for all the help I am checking for a short and buying a new sender. I can always count on everyone here to give good suggestions.

Thanks for all the help!
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Old May 8, 2007 | 10:24 AM
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They have sensors for our cars with the correct resistances to make the gages read correct. Just got a new one since I busted the terminal off my old one removing headers. $19.00
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Old May 8, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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ajstr1265,

Unplug the the wire going to the sending unit, your gage should now read zero deg (cold) = bad sending unit.
If it still reads hot then you have a shorted wire and your sending unit is OK.
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Are you sure the wire isn't grounded?
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Old May 8, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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ajstr1265,

Unplug the the wire going to the sending unit, your gage should now read zero deg (cold) = bad sending unit.
If it still reads hot then you have a shorted wire and your sending unit is OK.
When I unplug it, it goes to zero. Thanks!
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