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Old May 17, 2007 | 11:00 PM
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I'm new here and my dad recently bought a 1979 Vette, it has the stock 350 in it. My dad wants more power He's looking into a crate 502 Big Block (500+hp and 550+ torque), he and I don't know much about engine swapping in a vette. Can you help us out?

What will we all need, will the rear end be able to handle the power, what about the trans.

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Old May 17, 2007 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by nmband13
I'm new here and my dad recently bought a 1979 Vette, it has the stock 350 in it. My dad wants more power He's looking into a crate 502 Big Block (500+hp and 550+ torque), he and I don't know much about engine swapping in a vette. Can you help us out?

What will we all need, will the rear end be able to handle the power, what about the trans.

thanks in advance
The 502 should bolt right in. You'll need the front engine brackets (alt,p/s,a/c), tranny will bolt right up (auto or manual?) and the rear will be fine unless you really hook up. THe half shafts will die too, I think since the BB was not an option in 79, they went back to smaller stuff. But the rear end will be fine for a while. Drop that 502 in ther and just enjoy it..

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You'd be surprised at how many late C3's have BB's under the hood. Threw out the L82 that came in my '78 SA many years ago in favor of a 427. Never a second thought...

btw... 1980 was the year the rear diff setup was changed over to the Dana 44, so I believe the '79 ought to still have the good half-shafts, but you should go thru everything and make sure it's in tip-top shape before pouring on the extra torque.
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its an auto trans, my dads either considering the 502 bb or the 454 rated at 600hp, he hasn't decided yet.
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I doubt the hood will close with that new engine. Anyone know for sure and how to solve this problem?
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its an auto trans, my dads either considering the 502 bb or the 454 rated at 600hp, he hasn't decided yet.
No substitute for cubic inches, as the 502 has the potential to support more torque / power than a 454, but it all depends on what's in the package...

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I doubt the hood will close with that new engine. Anyone know for sure and how to solve this problem?
There's plenty of high rise hoods available, should it not fit under the stock one...
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figure whatever he thinks he's going to spend on an engine and that's how much he's going to start with keeping the drivetrain under it.
if you're seriously thinking of throwing 500-600hp at a c3, you better come with buckets of cash. once the cash is spent, you can use the buckets to collect all the broken little drivetrain parts.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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figure whatever he thinks he's going to spend on an engine and that's how much he's going to start with keeping the drivetrain under it.
if you're seriously thinking of throwing 500-600hp at a c3, you better come with buckets of cash. once the cash is spent, you can use the buckets to collect all the broken little drivetrain parts.
He can use those buckets full of cash towards a Tom's diff, and the breakage won't be the IRS.

btw... should have mentioned not putting in a solid tranny mount, which will help avoid causing quite as much drivetrain carnage...
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A big block may bolt right in, but be prepared to mod many small things. Even my sb stroker motor build required new brackets, fasteners, belts and etc. Why not consider a hot stroker small block? Much easier to swap, as far as parts, mounts, and etc. and more then plenty of ***** available.
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Originally Posted by oregonsharkman
Why not consider a hot stroker small block? Much easier to swap, as far as parts, mounts, and etc. and more then plenty of ***** available.
You've obviously never driven a good big block car...
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Originally Posted by bashcraft
You've obviously never driven a good big block car...
You may have a hot stroker SB that you cant drive in town with the same amount of HP that you can easily drive in town with a big block...

Besides I've found the BB to be more fuel efficient... My dad gets 7-8 mpg on the highway with his heavily modified 355 L82 and another forum member with a ZZ502 told me he gets 8 - 10 mpg!

Also I have done some research in 1971 the LS6 supposedly got better mileage than the LT-1 and in 1973 the LS4 got better mileage than the L82... I don't remember what the exact numbers were but GM claimed that the big blocks got better gas mileage by atleast 2 MPG
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Old May 21, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by clutchdust
figure whatever he thinks he's going to spend on an engine and that's how much he's going to start with keeping the drivetrain under it.
if you're seriously thinking of throwing 500-600hp at a c3, you better come with buckets of cash. once the cash is spent, you can use the buckets to collect all the broken little drivetrain parts.
Mr Clutchdust- we meet again!!!! I am not sure if you remember me but I found you somewhere about 8 years ago when I bought my 1980 and asked about cramming my 427 in it. You gave me a lot of good tips, thanks!
I see someone is wanting to do the same thing. I have a little experience under my belt now so I may be able to help others.
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