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Old Oct 26, 2001 | 05:05 AM
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Well I took Corvette Forum members advice from my previous listing. I removed the gas cover housing & peeled the rubber leak saver from around the gas filler and stuck a small flashlight in there. I saw the tank sticker on the passenger side looking old, but genuinely intact. To say I was excited would not due the moment justice....I was thrilled to death!!!! :crazy: I immediately started thinking on how to recover it.

I finally decided to gently reach up around the gas tank and feel the paper to determine how frail it was. Two my surprise it was very pliable, I SLOWLY worked the document back and forth a little and wah-la I had it in my hand.

It was quit readable and here is what I could decipher:

Order Number: TAL857
Zone No.: 42
Paint: 2V973AA1 76-76 MILLI MIGLIA

Code: (missing) Engine: 255 HP TURBO-FIRE SPECIAL
Code: 2VGS4AA Axle: REAR AXLE 3.70 RATIO
Code: 2VM21AA Trans: 4-SPEED CLOSE RATIO TRANSMISSION
Code: 2VC07AA AUX.TOP: AUXILLARY HARDTOP
Code: 2VAV3AA (listed in code area, no description printed. Code for 3-
point seat belts, my leather seats don't have them)
Code: 2VC05AA CONVERTIBLE TOP
Code: 2VF62HS FRONT SPRINGS
Code: 2VG32EA REAR SPRINGS
Code: 2VJ50A? POWER BRAKES
Code: 2VL???? ENGINE EMISSION IDENTIFICATION
Code: 2VPT7?? F70 X 15 TIRES (Code for white stripe tires)
Code: 2VT60?? HEAVY-DUTY BATTERY
Code: 2V????? AM/FM PUSH BUTTON RADIO
Code: 2V????? AM/FM STEREO RADIO
Code: 2V????? TIRE PRESSURE STICKER
Code: 2V????? BLACK LEATHER CUSTOM INTERIOR

And typed in the lower right side, but reversed (like it was typed correctly on the back side of the document) is the consecutive vehicle production number which matches my VIN plate. :cool: :cool: :cool:

If anyone has any info for the "spring" codes listed. The reference books I have dont list the codes :( Also has anyone taken any old document such as this in for restoration? And finally, does that "zone" number clue anyone in as to where this LT was originally shipped?? Thanks alot!! :flag

Keep wavin :seeya
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Old Oct 26, 2001 | 07:25 AM
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Zone 42 Seattle, Washington. Should be a Dealer number too. Chuck
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Old Oct 26, 2001 | 09:03 AM
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Congratulations on being able to retrieve your tank sticker! In all likelihood you will find a handwritten job number on the sticker. It should match other handwritten numbers you might yet find on the car in other areas.
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Old Oct 26, 2001 | 09:28 AM
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VERY Cool......I am still planning on retrieving mine but I will drop the tank first.....You are a brave man....to pull that off!! :smash:
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Old Oct 26, 2001 | 09:34 AM
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On behalf of all the NCRS judges, I guess your car is now incomplete without the tank sticker in the original location....with the original glue! :lol: :lol: (points deduction)

Just a friendly little joke! :cheers:
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Old Oct 26, 2001 | 10:08 AM
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I think you will find the spring codes in the front pages of the 72 AIM. If you don't have this book, e-mail me off line with your codes and I will look them up in my AIM. In addition, since I am also a 72 LT1 owner, I would love to correspond off this board to compare some notes about VIN's and some other amomalies in my car.
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Old Oct 26, 2001 | 10:31 AM
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Awesome! Now you can go hunting for the job number and look for grease pencil markings on your car and see if that same number is on your build sheet. :D BTW, I'm compiling a collection of these things. If you'd like to contribute your vehicle info to the research I'd be most appreciative. :seeya
http://corvetteforum.net/c3/1970registry/JobNo.html
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Old Oct 26, 2001 | 12:48 PM
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Steve, congrats! As long as you can read it and it is in one piece (isnt it?) I would concentrate on PRESERVATION rather than RESTORATION (of the document). One cute idea is to make a copy and put the copy back in place. I recently spoke to a librarian who is involved in restoration of old books, and I explained to her what a tank sticker was and the potential market for document restoration. Much to my surprise, she did not know anyone that can actually do the work!! :mad Maybe you could find someone thru the Library of Congress. MJ
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Old Oct 26, 2001 | 01:58 PM
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:cool: Wish I had one all I found was the glue strips where mine used to be! :sad:
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Old Oct 27, 2001 | 01:47 AM
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You're Lucky!! With my tank removed, my sticker was glued on there to stay! It was also mostly unreadable and very fragile. With great care, I scraped what I could off with a razor blade and saved the remains.

It was interesting to find that the bit that was legible was the color, which was supposed to be corvette bronze. Somehow, the color had been changed somewhere in production to lemans blue (which agrees with my trim plate). All I can say is that thank God that they made a mistake(?) because I hate the '68 corvette bronze color (no offense intended to any corvette bronze owners out there, just a personal preference).
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Old Oct 27, 2001 | 01:54 AM
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...One other thing. I found the job number written on a couple of places on my car. It is 219 and is written on the body on the panel forward of the gas tank and on the passenger side firewall. Is there any information that I can glean from this number???

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Old Oct 27, 2001 | 04:10 AM
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Thanks everyone for responding!

Chuck....There is a Dlr #, but I only can see the first # which is a zero.

Easy Mike: I have TWO hand written #'s on the document. The # 323 is written largely in the upper right area of the "description" area. The second which is semi small is 355 which is in the upper right corner of the document.

Ok, what if anything does this "job number" tell me?? Since there was 405 convertible LT-1's that year is it #323/405???

Gary S. Here's my e-mail address: vette63@psni.com look forward to typin back and forth with ya :D
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Old Oct 27, 2001 | 08:05 AM
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Steve, I am looking now at my tank sticker and I have two hand written numbers on it. At the bottom of the upper third of the sticker is a number that corresponds with the last three numbers of my VIN. At the very top is another number that MAY be the job number, but it is 29 numbers higher. At the start of production, the job numbers started at 1 and went to 1000, and then the sequence started over again. So a typical run of say 50,000 cars might have 50 cars with a job number of 323. One might be able to say then that at the start of production the VIN and job number should be the same. Maybe some experts will chime in here. During various repairs on my car I have found the last three of the VIN sequence under the T-top head liners, under the carpet of the rear compartment, on the passenger side of the transmission tunnel under the carpet. In addition, written in white crayon inside my right wheel well, at the very top, is the last two numbers of the three digit job number.

As far as the 323 out of 405 convertibles I don't think you can make that assumption. It was my understanding (guys, correct me here if I am wrong) that the convertibles and coupes went down the assembly line together. Therefore the job numbers would be mixed up between coupes and convertibles. In addition, I don't think that GM assigned job numbers only to a subgroup within another subgroup. That is, you don't have job numbers only for LT1 convertibles. LT1 was an option just like power windows or power steering. I believe, from reading here and on the NCRS DB, that job numbers were sequential regardless of body type and options. That way, all the assembly line worker had to do was to look at the tank sticker and then add the options listed.

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Old Oct 27, 2001 | 10:13 AM
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I thought during the shark era the build numbers went from 1-500.... A bunch of us '70 owners started looking into whether or not there is a relationship between VIN / build # / grease pencil marks on the cars / handwritten #s on the build sheets. I have a table of cars complete with VIN #s and photographs of build sheets etc. You can see it all online here: http://corvetteforum.net/c3/1970registry/JobNo.html

As Patrick mentioned I don't think there was an option correlation of the job #s - that was just the order the cars went down the assembly line. But I've also heard that when they got to the appropriate spot in the assy line the VIN was assigned in sequence. That would then imply that the JOB # and VIN# were in sequential order. There is a definite correlation bewteen VIN# and the last 3 digits found handwritten on the build sheets. At any rate - if you have any handwriting visible on your build sheet - and if you have any grease pencil markings pictures (or even descriptions) - maybe you can help us figure this out. Right now I think we're still lacking concrete data points. Everyone has a different theory and idea and opinion. What I'm trying to gather is some evidence. :) BTW - I've expanded this from 68-72 so anyone else out there with information is welcome to join in the research. :seeya
http://corvetteforum.net/c3/1970registry/JobNo.html

Thanks! ~Juliet :seeya
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Old Oct 28, 2001 | 03:15 AM
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Hey thanks for the additional info! I went down and checked the car for the markings on the car. Without diving to far I found the "355" number written fairly largely behind the passenger side heat shield in the engine bay on the firewall.
Also, not this matters in any way shape or form. I located a small "inspected by ########" white sticker on the bottom of the heater cover on the interior passenger side.

Will look for other markings. Juilet, I printed your registry address and will work on forwarding you some info. :flag
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Old Oct 28, 2001 | 03:35 AM
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Very :cool: I'll look for mine this week.
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Old Oct 28, 2001 | 10:39 PM
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I thought during the shark era the build numbers went from 1-500.... A bunch of us '70 owners started looking into whether or not there is a relationship between VIN / build # / grease pencil marks on the cars / handwritten #s on the build sheets. I have a table of cars complete with VIN #s and photographs of build sheets etc. You can see it all online here: http://corvetteforum.net/c3/1970registry/JobNo.html

As Patrick mentioned I don't think there was an option correlation of the job #s - that was just the order the cars went down the assembly line. But I've also heard that when they got to the appropriate spot in the assy line the VIN was assigned in sequence. That would then imply that the JOB # and VIN# were in sequential order. There is a definite correlation bewteen VIN# and the last 3 digits found handwritten on the build sheets. At any rate - if you have any handwriting visible on your build sheet - and if you have any grease pencil markings pictures (or even descriptions) - maybe you can help us figure this out. Right now I think we're still lacking concrete data points. Everyone has a different theory and idea and opinion. What I'm trying to gather is some evidence. :) BTW - I've expanded this from 68-72 so anyone else out there with information is welcome to join in the research. :seeya
http://corvetteforum.net/c3/1970registry/JobNo.html

Thanks! ~Juliet :seeya
The last three #s of my 69 is 834 with 334 being the job # written on my tank sticker.
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Old Oct 28, 2001 | 10:51 PM
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I also have a second set of hand written #s that is very faint and is located on the lower portion of the sheet. They match are the last four #s of my vin. Hope this helps.
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Old Oct 29, 2001 | 04:13 AM
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Well the VIN number correlation appears correct. The "355" number in the upper right hand corner of the build sheet matches the engine fire wall marking, and the larger "323" in the description area matches my consecutive build number in my VIN as it is: 511323. :flag
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 01:18 AM
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Thanks Steve. :) ~Juliet
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