Emissions crap
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Instructor
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From: Las Vegas NV
Emissions crap
I live in vegas but i register my cars in southern utah where no smog is required, only safety inspection. Can I pull my smog pump and all the emissions crap that goes along with it? Will pulling it off make any difference in the way the car runs? Are there any down sides? I'm not really looking for extra performance, I just dont think I need all that crap on there, and less crap makes the necessary crap easier to work on 
Thanks!!!
Thanks!!!
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From: Manchester NH
As someone who works in the emissions industry I'd say be careful. Uncle Sam has some pretty serious rules about "tinkering" with stuff he has deemed necessary. Most states have a "visual" law for pre OBD vehicles though many do not enforce. If, however, the law where you are changes, or you move to a state that does enforce and you have thrown your cats, pump, EGR, etc. away...you're screwed. It MAY be safe to pull and store, but that's up to you. Changing emission laws to include heavier fines and tighter regulations might just be the way the government uses to get these "old clunkers" off the road like they want to - classicindustries.com/clunker.htm. Watch out - Big Brother is right behind you!!! 
Le Mans Master
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From: Boca Raton Florida
You can remove the AIR pump and all its associated plumbing, that will clean it up a lot under there. Switching over to electric fans cleans it up a Lot more and IMHO is a better way to cool anyways. I think keeping the evap canister is good because it manages the gas fumes that would collect in the garage, it also does not rob any HP and if you fix all the leaking hoses it will do some good. On some cars the EGR system is pretty complicated, that could be cleaned up some.
Team Owner
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From: Orange Park Florida
What 6' said, then there are guys like ME, who put in updated engines with DPFI closed loop and overdrive trannies, and figger it's a done deal, sure, by the numbers the .gov can most likely find something to complain about, but not so far here in Florida....
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Instructor
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From: Las Vegas NV
well, i know in southern rural utah we'll have no problem with uncle sam messing with us. I definately want to pull the AIR pump, 2 hoses, and taps in to the exhaust manifold so I'm glad to know that I can pull it out with no problem!! Thanks guys!!
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From: Graceland in a Not Correctly Restored Stingray
SEMA has been working with state legislatures to help us out by having their "custom vehicle" registration language adopted into law. Many states have done so, and more are looking into it. ...and with the EPA's blessings, since they've stated that such vehicles have an insignificant impact on the environment. 
Most states that have passed the new regs exempt properly registered custom cars older than 25 years (sorry California) from maintaining emission equipment and from emmissions testing.
Check it out at www.semasan.com. (Joining is free.)
Oh, and keep the evap can...
Most states that have passed the new regs exempt properly registered custom cars older than 25 years (sorry California) from maintaining emission equipment and from emmissions testing.
Check it out at www.semasan.com. (Joining is free.)
Oh, and keep the evap can...
Last edited by TheSkunkWorks; Jul 12, 2007 at 12:55 AM.
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From: Manchester NH
One more thought about emissions then I'll shut up.
Most "exemptions" from emission testing involve this kind of language-"S.B. 124 provides that vehicles titled and registered as street rods and custom vehicles may only be used for occasional transportation, exhibitions, club activities, parades, tours, etc. and not for general daily transportation.
Look through the list of approved bills on that SEMA site (excellent site!) and you'll see this wording or very much like it- Florida, Arkansas, Virginia, etc. ALL have it. I don't know about you, but I don't think "occasional use" is good enough for my Vette.
My only point is, be aware that state laws (and federal) change and as fewer people (per capita) are into the older cars laws may change to "unprotect the innocent rodder". You can do what you want ("this isn't Russia is it? No, I didn't think so..." Ty, Caddy Shack), but it could come back to bite you in the butt.
Shutting up now.
Most "exemptions" from emission testing involve this kind of language-"S.B. 124 provides that vehicles titled and registered as street rods and custom vehicles may only be used for occasional transportation, exhibitions, club activities, parades, tours, etc. and not for general daily transportation.
Look through the list of approved bills on that SEMA site (excellent site!) and you'll see this wording or very much like it- Florida, Arkansas, Virginia, etc. ALL have it. I don't know about you, but I don't think "occasional use"
is good enough for my Vette.My only point is, be aware that state laws (and federal) change and as fewer people (per capita) are into the older cars laws may change to "unprotect the innocent rodder". You can do what you want ("this isn't Russia is it? No, I didn't think so..." Ty, Caddy Shack), but it could come back to bite you in the butt.
Shutting up now.
Le Mans Master
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From: Graceland in a Not Correctly Restored Stingray
One more thought about emissions then I'll shut up.
Most "exemptions" from emission testing involve this kind of language-"S.B. 124 provides that vehicles titled and registered as street rods and custom vehicles may only be used for occasional transportation, exhibitions, club activities, parades, tours, etc. and not for general daily transportation.
Look through the list of approved bills on that SEMA site (excellent site!) and you'll see this wording or very much like it- Florida, Arkansas, Virginia, etc. ALL have it. I don't know about you, but I don't think "occasional use" is good enough for my Vette.
My only point is, be aware that state laws (and federal) change and as fewer people (per capita) are into the older cars laws may change to "unprotect the innocent rodder". You can do what you want ("this isn't Russia is it? No, I didn't think so..." Ty, Caddy Shack), but it could come back to bite you in the butt.
Shutting up now.
Most "exemptions" from emission testing involve this kind of language-"S.B. 124 provides that vehicles titled and registered as street rods and custom vehicles may only be used for occasional transportation, exhibitions, club activities, parades, tours, etc. and not for general daily transportation.
Look through the list of approved bills on that SEMA site (excellent site!) and you'll see this wording or very much like it- Florida, Arkansas, Virginia, etc. ALL have it. I don't know about you, but I don't think "occasional use"
is good enough for my Vette.My only point is, be aware that state laws (and federal) change and as fewer people (per capita) are into the older cars laws may change to "unprotect the innocent rodder". You can do what you want ("this isn't Russia is it? No, I didn't think so..." Ty, Caddy Shack), but it could come back to bite you in the butt.
Shutting up now.
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