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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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I purchased a new master cylinder and calipers for my ’80 vette. Long story short…It seems some years ago bubba replaced the power booster and MC with a late model GM booster. The booster has an adjustable push rod which actuated the master cylinder. The old MC had a counter bore so that the push rod penetrated into the MC about 1.5”. The new MC does not have this counter bore and the push rod needs to sits flush. I shortened the push rod by the difference between the old and new MC. Now when I bleed the brakes the rear bleed okay, the fronts do not bleed. I am thinking the MC piston is not coming back far enough. How can I determine the correct length of the push rod?

Or should I stop screwing with it and buy the correct power booster? I am trying to avoid this because getting to the bolts does not seem like fun.
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jovo14
I purchased a new master cylinder and calipers for my ’80 vette..... Or should I stop screwing with it and buy the correct power booster? ....
Get a new booster, they are not expensive.

Remove the driver's seat to give you more room to work. Get a socket with a built in universal joint to access the fasteners (only one is really any problem).
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jovo14
I purchased a new master cylinder and calipers for my ’80 vette. Long story short…It seems some years ago bubba replaced the power booster and MC with a late model GM booster. The booster has an adjustable push rod which actuated the master cylinder. The old MC had a counter bore so that the push rod penetrated into the MC about 1.5”. The new MC does not have this counter bore and the push rod needs to sits flush. I shortened the push rod by the difference between the old and new MC. Now when I bleed the brakes the rear bleed okay, the fronts do not bleed. I am thinking the MC piston is not coming back far enough. How can I determine the correct length of the push rod?

Or should I stop screwing with it and buy the correct power booster? I am trying to avoid this because getting to the bolts does not seem like fun.
I'm not sure about an 80 model, but my 76 had an adjustable push rod coming out of the booster and going into the master cylinder just as you describe on your 80. It was original from the factory. Bubba had never been there. There is an adjustment procedure necessary to get the rod at the proper length for the MC when replacing the MC. When I replaced my booster with a new MBM brand unit, it used a choice of two different fixed length rods instead. The short one was correct for my existing master cylinder.
Possibly either (A) Bubba replaced the master cylinder/booster unit with an earlier design (like mine) or (B) you got the wrong replacement master cylinder. The bore diameters are different, I believe, between a MC for power brakes and one for manual brakes, and one has a deeper inset for the rod than the other.

Hopefully somone else will chime in with more info to help you.
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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I think you need this :

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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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I found something that may help. Go to http://mbmbrakeboosters.com and download and look at the "technical guide". It is for their products but there is a lot of useful general info that may help.
Good luck.
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