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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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Ok, I'm in the middle of my first major project as a vette owner with a suspension rebuild kit (VB&P rocks by the way ) While I had the trailing arms out I was checking the half shafts and the passenger side slid out of the differential almost by itself... so I thought I'd take the opportunity to clean them both up before I put the trailing arms back. The drivers side is a different story it does not pull free from the differential like the passenger's side did.

Was there something missing from the passenger side that allowed it to pull free like it did? The yoke(?) does not have any signs of damage and slips back into place just as easy.. is there something missing here?? Houston, do we have a problem?

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Ok, I'm in the middle of my first major project as a vette owner with a suspension rebuild kit (VB&P rocks by the way ) While I had the trailing arms out I was checking the half shafts and the passenger side slid out of the differential almost by itself... so I thought I'd take the opportunity to clean them both up before I put the trailing arms back. The drivers side is a different story it does not pull free from the differential like the passenger's side did.

Was there something missing from the passenger side that allowed it to pull free like it did? The yoke(?) does not have any signs of damage and slips back into place just as easy.. is there something missing here?? Houston, do we have a problem?

Thanks guys!!
This is Houston, yes you do indeed have a problem. The end of your axle stub is worn and the circlip has come off and is hopefully hiding somewhere inside your differential. You need to check out what is happening inside, better sooner than later.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 04:49 PM
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It is not supposed to come out all by itself. It normally is secured with a C-clip inside. Normally they don't even do this with a worn yoke, because it would be mushroomed and thus preventing it from slipping out.

The yoke may only have a limited amount of play. The half shaft also acts as an upper suspension arm.

Check out the differential post of GTR1999 (Gary) or give him a PM. He is the expert on them here and a good guy.

I guess you're in for a rebuild.
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 05:54 AM
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Hi

I guess you're in for a rebuild.

As already mentioned, the circlip is either worn off or just fell off.
Look at the pics of the yoke in catalogues and compare to what you have. There must be a groove on the end for the clip. If there is not groove anymore, the yoke is worn off. If there is still a groove, the cirlip fell off.

In both cases, you need to opene up the pumkin rear cover, insert the old yoke and reinstall the circlip or if it is worn, insert a new yoke.

With some luck, nothing else is damaged inside the differencial and all it needs is new oil & additive.

And if one side is so worn, the other side will be very simmilar. Hence, if the groove is missing, buy a set ( 2 each ) yokes and circlips.

Good luck. Günther
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Thanks for all the feedback! Sounds like I have something else to add to the 'while your at it' list

Time to brush up on differential rebuilds, check those posts by GTR1999 and see if this is something I should attempt myself. For anyone whose already tackled a rebuild, is this something a 'yank-n-replace' mechanic like me should try? Who has good rebuild kits?

I'll also try to get some pictures of the yoke for a reference...

Thanks again guys!
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You might have a replacement yolk that has no circlip to hold it in. The driver side yolk on my diff slides right out but it doesn't have any damage/wear on the end. There is evidence that the diff has been opened up so the yolk was probably replaced with one that was supposed to have a groove machined into it. You still need to get it fixed because if there is any play in the trailing arm you could experience some very funky handling issues.



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Originally Posted by AKruizer
Thanks for all the feedback! Sounds like I have something else to add to the 'while your at it' list

Time to brush up on differential rebuilds, check those posts by GTR1999 and see if this is something I should attempt myself. For anyone whose already tackled a rebuild, is this something a 'yank-n-replace' mechanic like me should try? Who has good rebuild kits?

I'll also try to get some pictures of the yoke for a reference...

Thanks again guys!
If it is just the replacement of the circlips and yokes, this can be done by a yank-n-replace. If it is worn and changes are that it is, because of the debris that would have gotten into the bearings etc. then the job is a whole lot bigger. You need to dial in the bearings and gears and this also requires special tools. Nothing is impossible, but if you read up about Gary's posts, you will see what i mean.

My advice is to rebuild it completly. If you see how difficult it is to remove the pumpkin alone, it is better serviced now than later.
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Hi

The advise for a rebuilt is surely good, but I know how someone feels about this, specially because this wasn't planed.

If you remove the differencial's cover ( also some work because the aft spring must be removed ) and look inside, you can see what exactly is required. No debris, no damage etc might not require a complete rebuilt, but just a new yoke inserted and circlip installed. This can be done by just about everybody who manages to get the differncial cover removed.

Lets see the pics of your yoke and also inside of the differncial once it is open.

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