C5 guy needs help building 327 please :)
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I Think procomp is a chinese set of heads, you can't be old school
with chinese heads.
I know $1050.00 for brodix is not as cheap,
but Brodix has been making aluminum heads since the 70s they are
first rate and very reasonable fo the money. A good set of used
Edelbrocks would be good, or the 58cc chamber aluminum vette
heads. Henery Ford is already upset with the chevy engine, and now
your going chinese on him.
with chinese heads.
I know $1050.00 for brodix is not as cheap,but Brodix has been making aluminum heads since the 70s they are
first rate and very reasonable fo the money. A good set of used
Edelbrocks would be good, or the 58cc chamber aluminum vette
heads. Henery Ford is already upset with the chevy engine, and now
your going chinese on him.
I ran into another guy with a 37 tonight, he had an SBC swap too. He had a nice Mustang II IFS in there, gave me lots to think about. I think more people would put SBF's in the older fords if the engine bays weren't so short, there is NO room in front of that engine!
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How are they any less old school than a new set of Vortecs I ran into another guy with a 37 tonight, he had an SBC swap too. He had a nice Mustang II IFS in there, gave me lots to think about. I think more people would put SBF's in the older fords if the engine bays weren't so short, there is NO room in front of that engine!
I ran into another guy with a 37 tonight, he had an SBC swap too. He had a nice Mustang II IFS in there, gave me lots to think about. I think more people would put SBF's in the older fords if the engine bays weren't so short, there is NO room in front of that engine!rods. If you do really want to look old school under the hood only
iron heads would do. Three dueces or two fours would be the ticket
for old school hot rod. Offenhauser has new three duece manifolds.
Edelbrock has a new high rise two four setup.
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small valve 194/150, pressed in studs. If they happen to be
202/160 valve heads screw in studs off a later engine with
the same 64cc chambers, they might be worth messing with
if the costs to redo them does not go very high. Performance
wise modern heads would be better, but if your HP goal is not
that high about anything can work. There is a Summit iron head
that is mostly a new replacement head that has 67cc chambers
165 runner 202/160 valves, screw in studs. Same price tag as the chinese aluminum head. Part # SUM-152123 $649.00
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From: In the pit, trying to love someone.
If the heads are original 327/ 275 horse heads they would be
small valve 194/150, pressed in studs. If they happen to be
202/160 valve heads screw in studs off a later engine with
the same 64cc chambers, they might be worth messing with
if the costs to redo them does not go very high. Performance
wise modern heads would be better, but if your HP goal is not
that high about anything can work. There is a Summit iron head
that is mostly a new replacement head that has 67cc chambers
165 runner 202/160 valves, screw in studs. Same price tag as the chinese aluminum head. Part # SUM-152123 $649.00
small valve 194/150, pressed in studs. If they happen to be
202/160 valve heads screw in studs off a later engine with
the same 64cc chambers, they might be worth messing with
if the costs to redo them does not go very high. Performance
wise modern heads would be better, but if your HP goal is not
that high about anything can work. There is a Summit iron head
that is mostly a new replacement head that has 67cc chambers
165 runner 202/160 valves, screw in studs. Same price tag as the chinese aluminum head. Part # SUM-152123 $649.00
Those are some tiny springs on there! Will they handle the 268H's lift and duration?
218/218 .454/.454 on a 110? I know thats small but better safe than sorry!
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...2&autoview=sku
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Those are some tiny springs on there! Will they handle the 268H's lift and duration?
218/218 .454/.454 on a 110? I know thats small but better safe than sorry!
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...2&autoview=sku
218/218 .454/.454 on a 110? I know thats small but better safe than sorry!
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...2&autoview=sku
There are all kinds of springs available that can handle way over 500 lift
with the the stock 1.7 installed height. Go a little higher on lift.
Dual pattern cams are better with the weak exhaust flow of factory heads.
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LSA is a little wide 112 but this cam and lifter kit is nice,
LUN-60102LK
int. .050, 219
ex. .050, 227
lift int. .468
lift ex. .489
Keeps the intake duration low, gives more lift on the intake
and gives a lot more duration/lift on the exhaust.
LUN-60102LK
int. .050, 219
ex. .050, 227
lift int. .468
lift ex. .489
Keeps the intake duration low, gives more lift on the intake
and gives a lot more duration/lift on the exhaust.
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From: In the pit, trying to love someone.
In addition to making more power that should sound a little meaner too! Thanks!
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There is a very good discussion going on in the C-2 section about the chevy heads (gearheads,help needed,461 heads). In the flow of this discussion, several very good points are made concerning the 327 engine, how to stroke it to a 350/383, hot rodding it,and other info. This is from the guys that still run them and are in the know. It will remain looking like a 327 on the outside.
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I like the idea of keeping it old school with the Iron "fuelie" duoble hump heads. As said earlier if its a 327 275 motor it probably had the double hump 1.94 intake valve heads on it. Assuming this couldnt he have them machined for 2.02 valves? Seems like it would be cheaper and those heads should do fine with the cam/rear ratio he has listed. Good post. Thought provoking!
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I like the idea of keeping it old school with the Iron "fuelie" duoble hump heads. As said earlier if its a 327 275 motor it probably had the double hump 1.94 intake valve heads on it. Assuming this couldnt he have them machined for 2.02 valves? Seems like it would be cheaper and those heads should do fine with the cam/rear ratio he has listed. Good post. Thought provoking!
for both intake and exhaust to get to 202/160 valves, all new valves, then the guides probably need work, then theres the cost of new springs. the head
would still have pressed in studs. probably better off to just by a
new set of summit heads, with 202/160 valves, screw in studs,
everything brand new and no chance of a machine shop screwup.
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St. Jude Donor '07
The best part is, it still has that classic hot rod "make do with what ya got" ingenuity.
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I like the idea of keeping it old school with the Iron "fuelie" duoble hump heads. As said earlier if its a 327 275 motor it probably had the double hump 1.94 intake valve heads on it. Assuming this couldnt he have them machined for 2.02 valves? Seems like it would be cheaper and those heads should do fine with the cam/rear ratio he has listed. Good post. Thought provoking!
If you have 1.94"/1.5" valves you should probably keep them that way. If you want to just upsize the exhaust to 1.6" that would not be a bad idea. The exhaust port is a little weak as delivered anyway so that can only help.
-Mark.
