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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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Here we go again. I am so confused. I am talking about head slesction here. When modifiying a CFI car and using the STOCK computer, what is the best head to use that wont freak the computer out. Im torn between a 64CC head and a 72CC head with 180cc runners. You guys that have moded your motors chime in and tell me what you used please.

I am going to port the intake
use the Comp Cam # 12-249-4
Not sure to go with dished or flat top pistons. jury is still out untill the heads are selected.
Install headers connected to a 2.5" dual exhaust with a highflow Cat (already installed on the car).
Change the rearend gear to 3.73 (already purchased ring and pinon)
I will probably leave the smog stuff on the car
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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The 64cc heads are a good choice in aluminum because you get a nice bump in compression and alum. is lighter also help with pinging but if your using cast iron go with a vortex style head (best bang for the buck). CFI will accept performance parts as long as you don't lose your vacumm!!! meaning no large duration cams under 218 duration @.050. Go have some fun!!!!
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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..... due to the vortec port physically being located 'higher', I don't think a Cross-Fire intake will mate properly:
someone will correct me if I am wrong.

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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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Vortec heads require Vortec manifolds. There are plenty of good heads out there for the old-style intakes.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 07:29 AM
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From what I read on the Cross Fire forum, a lot of guys use the Dart s/s heads and the Crane 2040 cam with the stock ecm. That 84 fuel pump seems to be a dog and not give you reliable pressure, cahnge it out for an 85 and bump the pressure up to 12psi.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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Someone suggeste 70CC or 72CC with 2.06 and 1.6 valves. what do you guys think? Also stick with a 180cc runner? Im looking to get 300-325 hp.
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Someone suggeste 70CC or 72CC with 2.06 and 1.6 valves. what do you guys think? Also stick with a 180cc runner? Im looking to get 300-325 hp.
..... with it's restrictive injectors and small inatke-ports, I don't believe you'd need 2.060"/1.600" valved-heads:
when I frequented the Cross-Fire Forum, I thought guys suggested using 58cc heads from L89s?????
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..... with it's restrictive injectors and small inatke-ports, I don't believe you'd need 2.060"/1.600" valved-heads:
when I frequented the Cross-Fire Forum, I thought guys suggested using 58cc heads from L89s?????
That is exactly my first thought. His bottleneck is still going to be the intake flow. Go with smaller runner heads. The L98's are 163cc I believe. The 1.95 valves will flow more than you will need.
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That is exactly my first thought. His bottleneck is still going to be the intake flow. Go with smaller runner heads. The L98's are 163cc I believe. The 1.95 valves will flow more than you will need.
LOTS of room for porting in the CFI manifold. Someone posted a pic of one next to a carb manifold, the runners are only about half open.
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Originally Posted by I'm Batman
LOTS of room for porting in the CFI manifold. Someone posted a pic of one next to a carb manifold, the runners are only about half open.
Im in the process of negotiating the purchase of a ported manifold, bored TBI units with 80# injectors and a programable computer. If this goes through....The sky may be the limit.
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Originally Posted by I'm Batman
LOTS of room for porting in the CFI manifold. Someone posted a pic of one next to a carb manifold, the runners are only about half open.
I doubt someone would port one of those things for less than what a new manifold would cost him. My time is worth more to me than trying to do it myself too.
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Originally Posted by kevinator80
I doubt someone would port one of those things for less than what a new manifold would cost him. My time is worth more to me than trying to do it myself too.
$630.00 was te first quote...jury is still out at the other shops. I think I found a used one that has been ported. Its of an 83 Z28. If the guy is reasonable I will buy it.
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Originally Posted by Glensgages
..... due to the vortec port physically being located 'higher', I don't think a Cross-Fire intake will mate properly:
someone will correct me if I am wrong.

S Dickson cast vortec head in both bolt pattern. I sould have mention that SORRY!
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Originally Posted by hugie82
S Dickson cast vortec head in both bolt pattern. I sould have mention that SORRY!
I wouldn't think the bolt-pattern/location would be the problem, but that the intake port-location of the vortec head, being physically taller, would be the problem.....
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Originally Posted by Glensgages
I wouldn't think the bolt-pattern/location would be the problem, but that the intake port-location of the vortec head, being physically taller, would be the problem.....
I didn't design them! I just telling you guys what he's got and for a pretty good price.
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I would splurge for the aluminum in 62 or 64 cc chambers. That should put you around 10 to 1 compression. Also I agree with what was said before about manifold flow. You can HOG it out but with stock TB you still only have around 700 CFMs max flow. 700 cfm is not bad but I wouldn't use any larger than a 2.02 intake valve. The basis of the crossfire manifold is air speed through the small long runners to produce massive torque right off idle
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Small runners..gotcha. Im working out a deal with a guy to buy a ported manifold, bored throttle bodies with 80# injectors, external fuel regulator, and programable computer (early prominator version). This should give me some cam and head selection options that the stock ECM and throttle bodies dont allow for.
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