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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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I've got one of these little powder coating units...



...that has worked pretty well since I bought it about 7 or 8 months ago. I was using it today and I wondered why the finish was coming out crap and the powder didn't seem to be sticking to the vertical surfaces.

Eventually, I put the gun tip near the earth where there should have been a decent size spark but there was barely a spark at all. I've accidentally earthed myself a couple of times before and there's a good size belt that'll go nearly all the way up your arm. Today, nada - bugger all spark and no belt (yep, I deliberately earthed myself!)

I pulled the cover off the box but there's just another plastic box inside it with all the wires coming from it and I wasn't going to pull it apart. It only cost around $60 and I reckon I've got my money's worth but I need to get another system. Who else does their own powder coating and what system do you use? I'm looking for something like "the next machine up" from this one, maybe $100 - $150.

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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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Can't help you with your electronic problem, but was wondering what you use to cure the paint.
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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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As I've said many times, get the Eastwood HotCoat gun. If you're patient, you can get it on sale for about $70. Regular price is around $100.

I had one of those systems, and it did well for about five years. The Eastwood system has a much more substantial feel and appearance, and works very well. I'm very happy with it. If you have any question about the system, drop me a line.

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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 05:34 AM
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You can cure the powder in an old electric oven. Never use your kitchen unit for this. Have one especially for powder.
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 07:40 AM
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Make sure it's electric. Fine powders and open flames don't mix very well.
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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Can't help you with this one BUT I have the same one and have not yet used it. If I didn't get such a deal on it (35 bucks on sale) I would have bought the new Craftsman deal - all one piece gun system, I think it's like 150 bucks. Looks pretty simple to use. I'm gonna breed a refrigerator and and old stove and hopefully end up with a box big enough for atv frames this winter.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00917288000P

I hope that link works I couldn't cut and paste the pic
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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I looked everywhere but there doesn't seem to be anything else except the Eastwood Hotcoat system for around that sort of money. The next step up is in the thousands of $$ so I bought the Eastwood system. I'm hoping the powder cups I already have will fit this gun...


Originally Posted by Duke94
Can't help you with your electronic problem, but was wondering what you use to cure the paint.
Duke94, I just use an old domestic oven and it works great. I did my upper and lower control arms in there, inlet manifold and my valve covers (well, the first colour when the machine died!), so you can get reasonably large items in there.


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Make sure it's electric. Fine powders and open flames don't mix very well.
True, but you don't even need an open flame to ignite your powder! A couple of times I've accidentally got the gun a little close to the job so that it's earthed and created a spark. If there's a cloud of powder (over spray) and you create a spark - FLASH
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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I had that system you have for over a year now without any probs. I had the eastwood one also but it failed in about three months. I'm pretty sure your cups won't fit the chicago unit has a coarser thead on the cup. The eastwood gun uses a 500cc plastic bottles

Not related to you topic really but have you had any luck with using the clears? I must being doing something wrong because every time I try to clear something it looks milky or even textured on occasion.
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Correct on the electric oven for curring powder. I have been envolved in powder coating since 1984. If any sparks or arcs are present (either on the hanging fixture or person) check grounds. Both fixture and powder unit. Clean hooks or wires and the unit being grounded are important and key to safety. It is also suggested that the operator spraying the powder be grounded.
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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Try putting the clear on while the parts are still hot,just be careful because you can get too much clear on them this way,its hard to tell how much you're putting on.I managed a shop for 5 years and thats how we got the best results.Mike
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Originally Posted by saudivette
I looked everywhere but there doesn't seem to be anything else except the Eastwood Hotcoat system for around that sort of money. The next step up is in the thousands of $$ so I bought the Eastwood system. I'm hoping the powder cups I already have will fit this gun...
The Chicago Electric cups have a bigger opening.
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by js292
I had that system you have for over a year now without any probs. I had the eastwood one also but it failed in about three months. I'm pretty sure your cups won't fit the chicago unit has a coarser thead on the cup. The eastwood gun uses a 500cc plastic bottles

Not related to you topic really but have you had any luck with using the clears? I must being doing something wrong because every time I try to clear something it looks milky or even textured on occasion.
I've only used clear once and it came out pretty good. If it comes out textured, you should be able to polish it out just like paint.


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The Chicago Electric cups have a bigger opening.
I wasn't sure so I ordered some extra cups too. When you buy powder from Eastwood (8oz), does it come in the cup?
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by saudivette
I've only used clear once and it came out pretty good. If it comes out textured, you should be able to polish it out just like paint.
Powder coat would be pretty hard to polish, I think. It took me a few tries to get very good with metallic and clear powders.



I wasn't sure so I ordered some extra cups too. When you buy powder from Eastwood (8oz), does it come in the cup?
The Eastwood 8oz powders are in the cups for their guns. Screw them on and go.
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by I'm Batman
Powder coat would be pretty hard to polish, I think...
It is harder than paint but you can still do it.


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The Eastwood 8oz powders are in the cups for their guns. Screw them on and go.
Cool. Lucky and went back and changed my bloody order to include another 3
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