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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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I will have to continue to use my vacuum operated headlights until I mount my fixed lights and all the needed body work. I want to remove all the vacuum lines from the motor to clean things up. Seeing as how I don't use vacuum brakes any more the only things I would leave connected are the distributor, transmission modulator, and PCV system. All of which is neatly located on the motor.

The rest of the system...that snakes in through the dash, and up to the lights...is something I could do without.

I was thinking, if I had an electric pump to create the vacuum needed up front in the vacuum tank, that I could remove the engine from the headlight vacuum system.

I have a spare LT1 electric smog pump lying around. It looks like I could very easily wire it to an IGN source so it runs when the motor is running, and just connect it's inlet to the vacuum tank.

I will try connecting it to a tank and testing vacuum with a gauge but I was wondering if anyone knew what kind of vacuum it actually produces and what the minimum for the headlights is? I was thinking of mounting this pump up front by the tank.

I can find these pumps cheap online...would two working together double effectiveness?
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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You'll only save one piece of vacuum tubing. The piece going from the intake to the tank.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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You'll only save one piece of vacuum tubing. The piece going from the intake to the tank.

Maybe that's enough for me. With my cam the motor doesn't make much vacuum anyway.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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I see your point, eliminating the entire system may both 2mmHg from what I've read.

I got 13 mmHg on a good day.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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New development.

I found this electric pump cheap, and it looks like it'll work great. I'm thinking if I use this pump I can either remove the large nose tank and either run no tank or just install a smaller tank.

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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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Are you having trouble with your headlights rising or staying up? Even if they rise a little slow I couldn't imagine going through all that trouble and extra weight of a pump to eliminate so little of the vacuum system.
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Are you having trouble with your headlights rising or staying up? Even if they rise a little slow I couldn't imagine going through all that trouble and extra weight of a pump to eliminate so little of the vacuum system.

Yep. I have more testing to do with the relays and such but I know I have under 10 down at the lights. When I tested last it was about 7 at idle.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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Yep. I have more testing to do with the relays and such but I know I have under 10 down at the lights. When I tested last it was about 7 at idle.
Well, then you've got leaks. You should be looking for them instead of messing around with some Bubba pump.
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Well, then you've got leaks. You should be looking for them instead of messing around with some Bubba pump.

I have looked for leaks. I've replaced most of the vacuum tubing. I have checked the carb, all the ports, and everything but the relays.

I'm pretty sure my cam is killing my vacuum.
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I'm pretty sure my cam is killing my vacuum.
I can guarantee I have a bigger cam than you and my headlights work good, not great, but good enough.

Solid roller cam, 272*/280* at .050. .680 lift. 107 LSA. It idles at 1200 rpm and doesn't smooth out til 2500 rpm.
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I can guarantee I have a bigger cam than you and my headlights work good, not great, but good enough.

Solid roller cam, 272*/280* at .050. .680 lift. 107 LSA. It idles at 1200 rpm and doesn't smooth out til 2500 rpm.

Well the auxiliary pump is plan 'B'. I plan on replacing the headlight relays and performing seal kits on the actuators. If that doesn't fix it and I still can't find a leak I'm going with a simple pump until I mount my fixed headlights.

I even check the shaft bushing for wear and tested to see if air was leaking in through there.
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Well the auxiliary pump is plan 'B'. I plan on replacing the headlight relays and performing seal kits on the actuators. If that doesn't fix it and I still can't find a leak I'm going with a simple pump until I mount my fixed headlights.

I even check the shaft bushing for wear and tested to see if air was leaking in through there.
I had to replace both my relays before the lights would work. They weren't very expensive, I think $55 each.
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Don't overlook the inline check valves in the vacuum system...if they leak thru,you headlights may not open/close...
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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Why not just run a hidden vacuum hose into the passenger compartment and then you can just suck on it when you want to raise or lower the headlights?
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Why not just run a hidden vacuum hose into the passenger compartment and then you can just suck on it when you want to raise or lower the headlights?

If I reroute the HVAC lines then I already have some I can use for that. Are you busy this weekend? I would like the new system tested.
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you can just raise and lower them by hand
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
If I reroute the HVAC lines then I already have some I can use for that. Are you busy this weekend? I would like the new system tested.
I think you already have all the experience and skills necessary to straighten things out on your own.
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Originally Posted by Kid Vette
I think you already have all the experience and skills necessary to straighten things out on your own.

You're right, I need a suckup to help me out, not a blowhard.
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
You're right, I need a suckup to help me out, not a blowhard.
Don't sell your self short. I think you already have both areas covered.
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