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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 02:13 AM
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Is it posible to find out a good estimation of my 0-60 mph time knowing only the details about my car? (on a good tarmac and hoosier dot tires):

weight: 2.775 lbs
power: 575hp/6.200rpms at the flywheel.
trans: 4 speeds
rear gears: 4.11

also, what would be the importance on the final result of reaction time, i mean in percentage over the car figures...

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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by panic
Is it posible to find out a good estimation of my 0-60 mph time knowing only the details about my car? (on a good tarmac and hoosier dot tires):

weight: 2.775 lbs
power: 575hp/6.200rpms at the flywheel.
trans: 4 speeds
rear gears: 4.11

also, what would be the importance on the final result of reaction time, i mean in percentage over the car figures...

thanks
Check out this link. It might hekp you get a ball park idea. All you need to do is plug in the data fields to get the answer. http://www.bgsoflex.com/auto.html

Hope it helps,
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 07:06 AM
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Take a friend with a Dodge Viper SRT10....
Take a friend with a C6 Z06....

Be faster than both your friends.....

And you will know the most important thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 08:27 AM
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must be nice......
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 08:52 AM
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I'm surprised you don't have on of those G-Tech accelerometers in your car.

http://www.gtechpro.com/
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by shafrs3
I'm surprised you don't have on of those G-Tech accelerometers in your car.

http://www.gtechpro.com/

Speaking about these accelerometers, are they accurate enough to invest $250 on one of them?? I've been asking myself that question since I first heard about them!
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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They are accurate. I have an older model, in new condition. $150 shipped within US.

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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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They are accurate. I have an older model, in new condition. $150 shipped within US.

These older models can be bought on Ebay for as little as $40 !

They work well enough for basic 0-60ft, 1/4 mile ET and speed functions. If you enter the mass of the vehicle it will also estimate HP.
times are reasonably accurate (within 0.2 seconds), and speed (1/4 mile) is within 3 mph compared to track results i have obtained.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Stroker-427
Take a friend with a Dodge Viper SRT10....
Take a friend with a C6 Z06....

Be faster than both your friends.....

And you will know the most important thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stroker, i already know this 'thing'....

I want to know now how many seconds i'd be faster then them

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Zero - 60 mph is usually attianed in not much over 35 - 50 meters in a (110-160 feet)car that can do a 1/4 mile drag race in a time of 12.00 seconds.

your car has a good HP per pound ratio so you should have a good acceleration rate -If you can get traction

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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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Use a stop watch and time yourself. I wouldn't trust any formulas as they don't account for the x factor...traction.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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.............If you can get traction[/B]
infact i would not get full traction in first nor in second, even with hoosier dot sportscar ply tires, IF I STARTED AT WOT, even on good tarmac... in third though i can get in a sec to redlight on my rev counter, and in fourth too...even so, i've always beaten by far any car i've compited against (on a short distance) and quite some supersports bikes as well...a 1.000 superbike will arrive to 60 mph in about 2.5sec and in 10 to the quarter, if the driver is good enough... i think i'd be around 3 sec, maybe slightly less.

anyway one of these days i'll make a proper measurement, with a pro hardware, just for curiosity.



the above vid shows a fast start but not at wot, i released the clutch at about 3.000rpms and in first i didnt even go over 4.000rpms, second around 5.000rpms and in third i was already after the first bend approching a sharp bend so i couldnt go further high anyway...



In this second vid i have a good start, without been too hard on each gear, without power shifting and slowing down approching the quartermile which is right where you can see the blue street signal on the right just before the vid finishes, all in 11 sec, i believe if i did it on a race track, power shifting and getting to redline on each gear i'd be around 10 sec easy...

what do you think?

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I watched this a bunch of times and compared it to my poor quality in car videos.

First off I would say that you are not shifting at much over 6000 rpm. rolling starts are not a good indication of standing start 1/4 miles.

1/4 mile times are made with good weight x-fer like Oliver and his wheel standing Grand sport. They plant the tires and go.

When i went to the 420+ pound rear spring with 3/4 sway and smart struts even with slicks and higher power my 60 foot times were never that good. I have a bunch time slips with 1.74 - 1.80. Road racing suspension just doesn't put the power down.

I went to the all Corvette drags with my 383 and only had 11.70's Your 406 with more TQ & hp would end up with a higher MPH .

You have a nice machine and brag about your road racing

Those roads with rock walls you race on scare me I've raced on street courses with cement barriers or like our Sears point race way and the gaurd rails could mean the end of your car. Big gravel traps are for me.

Good luck! I'm going QA-1 coil over and additional caging this winter with better brakes.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 01:18 AM
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Good luck! I'm going QA-1 coil over and additional caging this winter with better brakes.
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Gkull, having already the single adj QA1 shoks, is it possibly to get rid of the FG front and rear spring and swap for a coilover application? i've been thinking to go the coilover way but i dont want to dump my QA1 altogether, infact those who buil coilovers claim that new QA1 would be needed, i dont see the point here...any web address to check?

on both vids i change gear below 6.000rpms, specially the one on the motorway was nearly a fast cruise start and it was from standing, only my unexperienced (in vid) son started filming after i went, on the second vid also, there is a tricky bend turning right just after started and there the car nearly lost control last year...tarmac was crap anyway, and yes the rocks around scare the s$$t out of me too but when you go you can only see front of your nose and the people screaming 'GO GO!!! at 2 mtrs from the side of your car...
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I like my accelerometer, only 99 bucks seems to be accurate I've used it in many stock vehicles and compared to internet findings.

http://www.escortradar.com/gtimer.htm

My best time is a slow 4.41 seconds
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I like my accelerometer, only 99 bucks seems to be accurate I've used it in many stock vehicles and compared to internet findings.

http://www.escortradar.com/gtimer.htm

My best time is a slow 4.41 seconds
I'll get one, thanks for the link..
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Gkull, having already the single adj QA1 shoks, is it possibly to get rid of the FG front and rear spring and swap for a coilover application? i've been thinking to go the coilover way but i dont want to dump my QA1 altogether, infact those who buil coilovers claim that new QA1 would be needed, i dont see the point here...any web address to check?
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I bought the QA-1 coil over dual adjust with spring rates for my car weight. One good thing about them is you can adjust the front ride height nearly 3 inches. Sets of springs are only $80.
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wow, 2775 lbs, that's light. What have you done to get the weight down so low? Is that weight with fuel?
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wow, 2775 lbs, that's light. What have you done to get the weight down so low? Is that weight with fuel?
yes, with enough fuel to move the car out of the scale...
No, well, with i'd say 5 to 6 ltrs of gas in the tank...more or less.

I've done quite a lot, i'll post a full detail later on or maybe you can find something under 'panic', i've detailed some or most of the mods to drop weight a couple of times...otherwise send me a pm and i'll post them again...

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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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I bought the QA-1 coil over dual adjust with spring rates for my car weight. One good thing about them is you can adjust the front ride height nearly 3 inches. Sets of springs are only $80.
where did you buy them, if i can ask?
did you check the weight savings front/rear? comparing with trnasverse front monospring and rear monospring? thanks
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