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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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Default Performance Air Filters -do They Really Work

I'm thinking of buying a performance air intake for my stock 81. The part is a K&N filter and a filtered cover p/n EC-1503. Has anyone tried this combo? I'd be glad to hear from you and let me know if its worth a 100 bucks. I want to make sure there is enough clearance under the hood.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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Go out and drive around with NO air filter at all. See if you can measure a real difference.

Hint: you won't.

If I believed all the marketing hype out there my 5 HP lawnmower would be making 500.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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Check out my post "cold dense air is great" And boy was it ever today here in Atlanta!! I still can't get over what a major HP and torque increase this change has made.

You should plan on going back to or staying with stock induction, or plan a system like I described, taking air for the gill / gills or the cowl area. Also, IMO, the K&N filters are a worthwhile upgrade....when you need to replace your current filter.\

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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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Default No air filter???

many flow tests have been done to prove that you will get better air flow with an air cleaner than with out. this is due to the air turbulance that is created without the cleaner and housing. Not a valid analogy.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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Default Still not answering the mans' question.

The K&N filtert combo should still calm and direct the flow without restricting it BUT does any one know if it actually is better than a standard filter setup? I don't have the expertise to comment. Soneone out there should have.

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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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They don't filter as fine a particulate as an OEM.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by shafrs3
They don't filter as fine a particulate as an OEM.
i think that's why you have to put oil on them. i'll stick with my $5 fram
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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I run K&N filters on both my Harleys and my hemi powered jeep. Run OEM on vette to keep it original. The K&N's do flow more air and are reusable.
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This is a performant and lightweight air sucking device



...a good alternative to most current airfilter intakes

It also leaves the carb fully exposed for looks and easier maintanance.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 08:32 PM
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I think the difference in air flow is measurable, but real world difference in performance is probably minimal and very different car to car. I installed a K&N in several cars...one got about 1 mpg better, the other cars I noticed no difference at all in fuel mileage or performance otherwise. Then again, my heavy foot could have been the reason for that.
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You might try a search of previous posts. I seem to remember Lars posting something regarding a scientific test of various filters.

I think the gist of the test was that K&N flows more air, but also lets more dirt into the engine.

Do you remember the old saying about "There is no such thing as a free lunch"?

Ralph.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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Just go ahead and get a K&N or it will bug the crap out of you until you do!!!!!
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On my tripower I noticed a huge seat of the pants difference with K&N vs whe AC delco paper filters. They were 4 1/2 x 2 filters on each air cleaner and the paper ones were restrictive. See my Corvette Photos to the left for the pic of the K&N's. Probably less increase with a stock size air cleaner but they look cool.
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 01:25 AM
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oem napa filters.......$3..............it'll take a while for that k&n to pay for itself. i don't think you'll see much gain unless you've made a bunch of other upgrades to utilize or need the extra air-flow.
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I read a study once where they compared a K&N versus other available filters and the AC Delco paper element filters flowed better BY A MILE than anything else available. They did not test the K&N filter top though.
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Originally Posted by joehalford01
oem napa filters.......$3..............it'll take a while for that k&n to pay for itself. i don't think you'll see much gain unless you've made a bunch of other upgrades to utilize or need the extra air-flow.

Unless the filter is the major restriction point and your engine really is wanting a lot more air, you won't feel a big difference. They do flow better, but if the engine doesn't want more air (low Hp, low rpm, etc.), then the benefit will be minimal. It really depends on the filter & engine combo. Having said that, I like them and use them on all my cars.
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by hdpete98
many flow tests have been done to prove that you will get better air flow with an air cleaner than with out. this is due to the air turbulance that is created without the cleaner and housing. Not a valid analogy.
OK, so pull the guts out of a stock filter element leaving just the screen. Now drive the car and see if there's any REAL difference.

I know everybody wants to see a difference since they've spent money to get it, but in the real world..............
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 63mako
On my tripower I noticed a huge seat of the pants difference with K&N vs whe AC delco paper filters. They were 4 1/2 x 2 filters on each air cleaner and the paper ones were restrictive. See my Corvette Photos to the left for the pic of the K&N's. Probably less increase with a stock size air cleaner but they look cool.
I wonder if some of the 'seat of the pants" difference was noise and some was with the increased air flow leaning out the fuel mixture some?
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Originally Posted by DWncchs
I wonder if some of the 'seat of the pants" difference was noise and some was with the increased air flow leaning out the fuel mixture some?
I really think with that small of filter is is a restriction and the K&N helped. At cruise I am running on the center 2 bbl. All my air is being pulled through a round 4 1/2 by 2 filter. As I said with a full sized air cleaner there is probably not near as noticable difference but in my case the K&N helped. Probably did lean it out a little and that is part of it but they do increase air flow which I needed. The new setup has rectangular 4 x 7 x 1 3/4. No K&N needed or used on the new setup.
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As with a gazillion other bolt-on and screw-on speed parts out there, the only time that something like a K&N filter will make an appreciable difference over another filter is at the upper end of the RPM range. If you spend all your time at 6000 RPM (or above) then you may notice a difference. For just a few more $$$ you can buy a new cam that WILL make a VERY noticeable difference, but then that would take more than 30 seconds to install......
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