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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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Bought new coil springs for the front end of a 1971 350cc/330hp from VBP--460 lb stock replacement but they are shorter. Is that normal?

How do you place the spring when replacing. Line up the top or the bottom. What do you line it up with? Someone on another thread line it up at the top with a hole?
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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Have you removed the other springs?. This is a question that could have an extensive answer. 1st the new spring should be shorter. It has a higher weight rating. Atleast thats what I was told on mine 68 BB..

Its really trickey getting the old one out and the new ones in. Make sure you read up on it before trying. The spring can hurt you comming out. Theres a tool you can rent from auto pts store. Spring compressor.

Have you removed the old ones?.
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 11:40 PM
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Length = normal. 44 years of improved technology will do that.

I'm pretty sure they're aligned to the upper (frame) pocket, but check the factory shop manual to be sure. Mine's about 2200 miles away right now.
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Yes I have already removed the shock, spring, bearings and sway bar. I am now ready to put it all back together--new shocks, springs, bearings, an sway bar bushings, etc.--that's why I am asking on where to place the spring.
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460 are not stock springs...that is why they are shorter..


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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 09:13 AM
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When I did a lift kit on my Jeep, the replacement coils were same height as the stock springs. thing is, the replacement springs are stiffer and larger diameter wire and don't compress as much as the stock springs.
Just my 2 cents worth...
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by wallifishrmn
Bought new coil springs for the front end of a 1971 350cc/330hp from VBP--460 lb stock replacement but they are shorter. Is that normal?

How do you place the spring when replacing. Line up the top or the bottom. What do you line it up with? Someone on another thread line it up at the top with a hole?
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Line up the top. They are not shorter when installed, only when uncompressed. They are wound differently.
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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the original springs on my 70 were 3" longer that the replacements. i think it has to do with the variable windings on the oem springs that was done for ride stiffness.
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You can get GT coils that maintain stock ride height..the VBP 460's are listed as "GT" coils,not stock replacements re "spring rate"....
The OP has to decide which coil spring rate he wants...
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by wallifishrmn
Bought new coil springs for the front end of a 1971 350cc/330hp from VBP--460 lb stock replacement but they are shorter. Is that normal?

How do you place the spring when replacing. Line up the top or the bottom. What do you line it up with? Someone on another thread line it up at the top with a hole?
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Sorry didnt quite understand.

Theres a drain hole in the bottom pocket. The end of the coil is supposed to barley cover it. Leaving the hole mostly exposed. You jack the car way way up. Let the lower A Arm drop as low as possible.

Put the spring into the upper pocket and compress it with the compressor.
Raise the lower A arm and make sure the coil ends on the hole. You can turn it but be careful. I put a chain around the coil through the shock mount to make sure if it brake loose it wouldnt go anywhere.

Jack the lower A Arm up til the ball joint can be attached. Remove the compressor.. Good luck..
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Originally Posted by rihwoods
460 are not stock springs...that is why they are shorter..

this is the right way to align the spring. View A in the drawing refers to the upper spring pocket, not the lower one. If you align the lower end of the spring you can't be sure that the upper end will end up in the right place, especially with aftermarket springs.



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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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What difference does it make? I aligned the bottom ones and assume that if it is correct, the top must be also. I also thought the bottom one would continue to drift down in the fitted space. Also, it was almost impossible to see the top, when the bottom was easy to see. I just didn't want to stick my head up in an area where things are held with spring compressors, jacks and safety chains!!!
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I put VBP 460# on my 65. The VBP are definitely shorter. Even so, the car sat higher in the front than with the old springs. Actually, I ended up cutting the new springs. It looked too high in the front for me. Let me say my car is not stock and I wanted it a little lower.

Seat the top of the spring. If you seat the bottom, the top will not sit flat in the spring seat.
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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Just redid my suspension about 3 mos ago. If I would have known I would have cut atleast 1/2 a coil off. Ill probably pull them back off and cut 1/2 to a hole coil off..
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I have done this its the way the manuals says to do it
Originally Posted by rihwoods
460 are not stock springs...that is why they are shorter..


Last edited by 69small block; Jan 1, 2008 at 10:13 PM. Reason: more
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I made a fixture for my hydralic jack it fits on the a arm at the bushing you can put at the bushings loosen the 2 bolts on the cross bars and lower a arm you also need too use a pair of racheting tie down straps to keep the a arm from moving out from car i connect these straps on the other side of the car gives you a lot of control on the a arm movement the fixture is in the chasis manual sounds more involved that it is but very safe and the sring pressure seems to be less on the inside of the a arm in my opinion
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