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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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I have just reassembled my dash and gauges, but have noticed the fuel gauge wanders all over the place.....

I have a new sender unit in the tank, and wires to sender are secure.
The fuel gauge needle fluctuates a lot with movement of the car... braking, accelleration, corners.... It has always done that, but not as much as it is now. Also, when I use my turn signals, the needle jumps back and forth (about 1/4 tank indication) in synch with the flasher cam.
One further clue to the problem is that when I turn engine off, the needle remains at the fuel tank level..... but if any electrical load is applied (such as depressing brake pedal) the needle swings way over against the stop - way past the full mark. As soon as ignition key is placed to ON, the needle restores to display fuel level....


Any auto-electric gurus out there that can help me determine what these symptons indicate?
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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It sounds as if there is a grounding problem, either at the gauge or the tank sender.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Aktbird
It sounds as if there is a grounding problem, either at the gauge or the tank sender.
Yep
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 01:44 AM
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I'll run a seperate ground lead and see if it improves matters....
Thanks for the prompt response.

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Change the gauges fuse. sounds like it has gone resistive. also check the parrel wire wound resistor on the back of the fuel gauge, make sure it's not open, and the sender to ground.
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Mine's been doing that for 16 years...it's somewhere on the "to fix" list...but apparently not very high.
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Originally Posted by I'm Batman
Mine's been doing that for 16 years...it's somewhere on the "to fix" list...but apparently not very high.
and you think the problem is........?
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It sounds as if there is a grounding problem, either at the gauge or the tank sender.
I ran a seperate ground wire to the gauge cluster and it made no difference..... ???
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Originally Posted by OzzyTom
I ran a seperate ground wire to the gauge cluster and it made no difference..... ???
The fuel gauge is grounded at back end of the sender.

It's a simple circiut,, power from the gauge fuse to a main pigtail, splits to about 8 leads, onme of them is to the fuel gauge, which with the back wire wound resistor is about 90 ohms,, down to the connector to the rear harness, to the in of the sender, which is 90 ohms full, out of the sender to ground. what your discribing is a voltage fluctuation into the sender, a fuse gone high resistance can cause this,, or a problem in the wiring to the sender, could also be a short in the rear wiring harness,, does your rear curtosy light work?
May be a short between the gauge and the sender to the rear lights,

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Originally Posted by RunningMan373
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. does your rear curtosy light work?
May be a short between the gauge and the sender to the rear lights,
Rear courtesy light?

What rear courtesy light?
Its a convertible..... the only lights I have inside are in the footwells and the rear storage compartment.
I am not aware of any rear courtesy lights.

But I will check the fuse and ascertain the ground connection on the rear of the gauge. Thanks
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Originally Posted by OzzyTom
Rear courtesy light?

What rear courtesy light?
Its a convertible..... the only lights I have inside are in the footwells and the rear storage compartment.
I am not aware of any rear courtesy lights.

But I will check the fuse and ascertain the ground connection on the rear of the gauge. Thanks
Ok,, you didn't mention it was a convertable, and i left my crystal ball at a friends house,, btw, i know what your problem is.
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Originally Posted by RunningMan373
and you think the problem is........?
Either a bad ground or a bad sender. The "bouncy fuel needle" problem is fairly common in C3s, and it seems to have several causes.
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Originally Posted by RunningMan373
Ok,, you didn't mention it was a convertable, and i left my crystal ball at a friends house,, btw, i know what your problem is.

Can I borrow YOUR crystal ball from your friend ???:o
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Originally Posted by OzzyTom
Can I borrow YOUR crystal ball from your friend ???:o
Question is, does your ammeter work. if not, you hooked the ammeter power up to the feul gauge and vice-versa.
the rear light in coups short out a good deal of the time shorting wires in the rear harness which also contains the rear lights and the feul sender wires. just my 2c,, something to look at,, but i'd check the ammeter, fuel gauge wiring, see if the ammeter works. w/o it running, turn on the lights, if the fuel gauge moves but the ammeter doesn't, ther's your proble, good luck,, Chris.
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Ammeter is working OK.....

I will have to pull out the gauge cluster and check the rear to ascertain the ground connection.....
I've got to calibrate my temp gauge also..... it is reading too low.
Not sure if I have the right sender unit, or just need to change cal resistor on rear of temp gauge.....

Just another couple of items on the " To DO" list.

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