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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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how many teeth on the flywheel 79 L-82 4speed? 153 or 168 Thanks.
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Thanks I was hoping for the 153, so I could use the lite weight gm 153 tooth f/w without having starter/bellhousing issues.
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168 for auto trans
153 for standard trans.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Glass Act
168 for auto trans
153 for standard trans.
Is it applied for all years/engines?
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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I can only say for sure on my two Vette's, 1972 & 1979. I'm sure someone will help answer if all years are the same.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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Hey Glass, so 79 stick is 153? That is what I was hoping for. The centerforce website only lists 1 clutch option a 11" unit. So I kinda thought it would be 168, thanks for the info.
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Originally Posted by Glass Act
168 for auto trans
153 for standard trans.
I don't think this is true. My 78 4-speed had the 11 inch 168 tooth flywheel.

keep in mind that if you change to the 153 tooth flywheel, I believe you will need to change the bell housing as well.

I went through the same thing (actually bought a lightweight 153 tooth flywheel and had to get rid of it). I found a used aluminum one for sale from a knowledgable forum member and went with that.

Don't forget about the clutch ball stud, the lighter flywheel will most likely be thinner than your old stock one and if you use the stock ball, your clutch might not engage/disengage fully. You will probably need to get the linger ball stud. If you do a search on my posts, gkull replied to me with the GM part number of the longer stud. Miss the stud and you will be dropping the tranny again to get it right
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regardless of what year it is crawl under the car and look at the starter, if the two bolts holding it in place are staggered then its a 168 if the are not then its a 153 unless you have an after market mini-starter.

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It has a cast iron nose starter with staggered bolts.

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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Glass Act
168 for auto trans
153 for standard trans.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

well. When I swapped my auto for manual, I compared the 81' flex plate to the (11" clutch) flywheel (from a 79) and they matched tooth for tooth (168)

I THINK the 153 is the smaller 10 1/2" clutch set up
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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Lots of great answers, but check this to be sure. If the bellhousing number ends in 621 it's 168 tooth, if ending in 403 it's 153.
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Old Jan 17, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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I just had it on the lift replacing a motormount and looked at the bellhousing number but can't remember, I'm sure its not 403 thats whats in my 65 and 621 didn't sound right thats what was in my 71. I'll look again when its in the air.
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There are other bellhousings out there.

There are few rules when it comes to clutch sizes and bellhousings. You have to keep them together and not try to mix and match.

The factory never used an 11" clutch on a 327 but they did use both sizes on 350's and big blocks. IN VERY GENERAL TERMS most BB's use the 11" clutch with exceptions for some SHP models that used the smaller clutches. The 350's generaly use the 11" clutch but there are some exceptions where the smaller setup is used. Bottom line is you have to look at the bellhousing or starter to determine what is actualy in there now. These things have been changed over the years and it is wise to look twice and order once

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My 80 is 168,4speed 11"
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Originally Posted by GrtDanes
My 80 is 168,4speed 11"
That's the same as my '80.
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Old Jan 18, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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In about two minutes the local rebuilder changed the end on a starter
that was against a 168 flywheel for and end to match the 153.
he just swaped out with me did not even bother charging me anything
I was not a regular customer.
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