New windshield
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Racer
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New windshield
I have an appointment tomorrow to have new windshield glass installed. I would like to remove the black trim on my 81 tonight. Can anyone advise how, and where the clips are?? It is the original glass. I am planning to apply a thin black felt stip where the glass rubs the dashpad....and cleaning out a little rust down at the base of the pillars and painting flat black before he installs new glass. Is there anything else I should be aware of.???
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
Melting Slicks
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From: Shreveport LA
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I watched the glass guy when he installed mine about a year ago. After he removed the windshield, he inspected the frame for any rust and found some surface rust....he sanded them clean and sprayed it with black rust inhibitor paint. He then placed a "rope of black rubber weather strip material" around the frame and installed the windshield. I noticed when he was finished, the windshield sat about 1/2" further away from the dash than previously...I attributed this to the new weatherstripping.
Good Luck!
Good Luck!
Race Director
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From: Wellington, FL
St. Jude Donor '11 thru '25
Keep a close eye on what is going on as a lot of installers will not advise of rust and install the windshield over it. When I had mine done, there was rust and I actually drove the car home where I could sand blast it and then apply the rust inhibitor. Driving w/o a windshield is illegal in FL but I did it anyway as there was no way they were going to install that glass on top of my rusty frame. If I wasn't there, that's what would have happened. 
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Racer
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I plan to. We are doing it at his shop, and after removal, I have time set aside to remedy issues etc. After all is OK, then the new glass will be set. I will pay special attention to thickness of caulk. Any tips on removing black trim myself tonight?? I have new clips on hand for tomorrow.
5th Gear
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From: youngstown ohio
the trim on the sides of the window have screws in them under the weather strip, and then they will just lift out of the way. as for the top of the window you need to use a window trim removal tool and it will come off fairly easily. good luck P.S before the guy leaves or you leave after the install be sure to get inside the car and look at all the edges as if you were trying to look out the window to make sure you dont see any light coming in. ask and see if he can urethane it in that is the way to go .. hope it turns out good for ya
Drifting
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From: Marina CA
I prefer to have the windshield mounted in butyl instead of urethane. The butyl remains pliable and flexible and makes the windshield less prone to stress cracking. The fiberglass bodied cars will flex more than a steel bodied one and urethane sets up real hard and is not as forgiving as butyl.
I just had my windshield reinstalled after removing it myself (butyl mounted) and I got it out in one piece. If it had been urethane mounted it would have cracked trying to remove it. Glass guy used a 3/8" butyl kit and the fit to the surround moldings was right on.
I just had my windshield reinstalled after removing it myself (butyl mounted) and I got it out in one piece. If it had been urethane mounted it would have cracked trying to remove it. Glass guy used a 3/8" butyl kit and the fit to the surround moldings was right on.
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Racer
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Well the plot thickens....as always. Yes, the 81 glass was installed with a soft (as compared to two part urethane) butyl rubber cord that never really cures. DOT regs won't allow this anymore, according to my glass guy.....SO, he is going to sell me the PPG USA glass, butyl cord outright, and remove the glass for me. I will drive to my Dad's place and he and I will install. It is not too far away.
Thanks to everyone who helped on this post.....you saved me alot of hassle...as I am sure the glass would have cracked due to the stiff adhesive.
FYI to all.....he also mentioned that urethanes can "suck in" when curing.....and this can cause cracking on certain model cars too.
Thanks to everyone who helped on this post.....you saved me alot of hassle...as I am sure the glass would have cracked due to the stiff adhesive.
FYI to all.....he also mentioned that urethanes can "suck in" when curing.....and this can cause cracking on certain model cars too.
Drifting
Joined: Oct 2007
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From: Collinsville MS
St. Jude Donor '08
I prefer to have the windshield mounted in butyl instead of urethane. The butyl remains pliable and flexible and makes the windshield less prone to stress cracking. The fiberglass bodied cars will flex more than a steel bodied one and urethane sets up real hard and is not as forgiving as butyl.
I just had my windshield reinstalled after removing it myself (butyl mounted) and I got it out in one piece. If it had been urethane mounted it would have cracked trying to remove it. Glass guy used a 3/8" butyl kit and the fit to the surround moldings was right on.
I just had my windshield reinstalled after removing it myself (butyl mounted) and I got it out in one piece. If it had been urethane mounted it would have cracked trying to remove it. Glass guy used a 3/8" butyl kit and the fit to the surround moldings was right on.
Melting Slicks
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From: Eastern US XX
Here is a writeup I did that may help you out. You really should use Urethane with the Butyl tape.
http://www.speakeasy.org/~pws/Corvette.htm
http://www.speakeasy.org/~pws/Corvette.htm
Well the plot thickens....as always. Yes, the 81 glass was installed with a soft (as compared to two part urethane) butyl rubber cord that never really cures. DOT regs won't allow this anymore, according to my glass guy.....SO, he is going to sell me the PPG USA glass, butyl cord outright, and remove the glass for me. I will drive to my Dad's place and he and I will install. It is not too far away.
Thanks to everyone who helped on this post.....you saved me alot of hassle...as I am sure the glass would have cracked due to the stiff adhesive.
FYI to all.....he also mentioned that urethanes can "suck in" when curing.....and this can cause cracking on certain model cars too.
Thanks to everyone who helped on this post.....you saved me alot of hassle...as I am sure the glass would have cracked due to the stiff adhesive.
FYI to all.....he also mentioned that urethanes can "suck in" when curing.....and this can cause cracking on certain model cars too.
Drifting
Joined: Oct 2007
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From: Marina CA
The glass installer never mentioned any DOT regs when he came out. I received exactly what was requested on the installation. He did an excellent job centering the windshield and setting it to the correct height so the surround moldings fit like a glove.
