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The rear is a Dana with 3.07 gear. I don't see anyone jumping at the chance to rebuild one of these, why is that? Also, where would I get good parts to rebuild it myself?
The 1963-1979 differentials were iron units - these are a lot stronger then the diff's after these years. GM decided to swap the casing to aluminum to save weight after 1979. Thus, the aluminum units are a lot weaker than the iron ones. If you plan on running a lot of horsepower through your car in the future, I suggest you research on how to convert your unit to an iron unit. I've seen it done before.
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tracdogg2 (mike in TX) can rebuild these. The 80-82 rear end was not a stunning design effort. The 3.07 gear is designed for economy. You can have them rebuilt with down to 3.73. You may even be able to do 4.11, although, I don't know why anyone would use that low of gear in this type of diff. Rebuild services are offered by several vendors in a core exchange; you send them your old diff and they send you another rebuilt unit for about $800 on up. Rebuild kits vary in $$ depending on what all needs replacement, new or refurb yokes & gears, etc.
Bear in mind when doing diff work, the auto & manual trans types used very diffrent yokes (stub shafts).
I suggest you give gtr1999 (gary) a shout. He builds the best differentials out there for c3's. The iron diff will bolt up the the batwing with very little modifications. He tunes the posi unit, installs full clutches, polishes the posi case, installs new bearings, the works.
I believe Mid America and probably some other catalogs sell the rear diff, with or without your core exchange- and the 80-82 rear is plenty strong for a mild- moderately hot rodded strret car.
I found out that the bad reputation of those aluminium differential comes from bad aluminium casting. The 84 and up used almost the same design (Dana 44) with some improvement but have far better aluminium casting and are rated for a lot of abuse.
You can rebuild yours with a richmond gear from 2.72 to 3.73 (or 3.90), new bearings and new cluthes for around 500$. If you want 4.11 and more, you need to change the posi unit.
I'm running close to 400 hp, manual trans and street tire with no problem so far...
The secret is the case, check it for bad casting and cracks as this one...
Last edited by American Boy; Feb 26, 2008 at 12:30 PM.
If you plan on any significant power upgrades, I'd follow stinger12's advice, go with an iron unit. That's one of my '81's current projects, I don't think the stock unit will last behind an LS 427 for very long, at least with my foot on the loud pedal.
The rear is a Dana with 3.07 gear. I don't see anyone jumping at the chance to rebuild one of these, why is that? Also, where would I get good parts to rebuild it myself?
Thanks,
Stephen
I'm doing my 82 right now. I bought the clutch pack and seals from Duntoff, the Timken bearings from AutoZone, shims from Ratech. Parts were cheaper than buying a kit. You will need access to a press or bearing puller to set up the carrier bearings. The pinion shims are actually behind the head race for the pinion. If your carrier preload is tight you MAY need a case spreader (I set mine up and didn't need a spreader). The carrier can safely and properly set up without the spreader though so don't let that scare you. If you want to attemp this or have any questions contact me. This is basically the same (except aluminum) rear that is used in thousands of Jeeps so there's alot of similar info if you do a search.
I suggest you give gtr1999 (gary) a shout. He builds the best differentials out there for c3's. The iron diff will bolt up the the batwing with very little modifications. He tunes the posi unit, installs full clutches, polishes the posi case, installs new bearings, the works.
Gary doesn't rebuild 80 - 82 but he did reccommend someone on the forum that does. I sent mine to Bair's and they did a great job.
Gary doesn't rebuild 80 - 82 but he did reccommend someone on the forum that does. I sent mine to Bair's and they did a great job.
Aaaaah, but Gary works on iron diffs. I asked him if there was a conversion for the aluminum diffs and he said that the iron unit would bolt up to the bat wings with very little mods, so converting to an iron unit wouldn't be all that hard.
Let me know if you find some to rebuild one, Im geting ready to order my parts, swapping out for 3:55 gears. I found all the parts, I cant find any quality bearings local, I may have to buy them from the distrubter for a premium of course! I set it up my self if I have to
Is there anybody in Minneapolis area that can do a differential rebuild for a 74? Mine definitely needs a rebuild and now it leaks. So it needs to be done sooner than later. Everybody is so busy, I may need to buy a new one and send in the old as a core.