Installing super t-10
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Installing super t-10
I tried to no avail to get my st-10 mated up with the engine. The clutch disk seems to be lined up in the pressure plate good. I also had someone push in the clutch while I tried to wiggle it in. Is it usually a struggle to get it to line up just right with the pilot bushing?
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Had a heck of a time with mine as well, tried it, took it out, rechecked the alignment. Finally just kept wiggling it till I got it close enough for the bolts to catch, then gently cranked them down a bit on each one. Seems OK so far, but I haven't finished and driven it yet.
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Put the transmission in any gear and rotate the output shaft as you are installing. Should be able to get things together. The last 1/4 inch is always tough because of the fit between the bellhousing hole and the trans front bearing flange. If you get this far, using the bolt trick to pull everything together usually works. (should come together with relative ease)
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The key is to get it on the same angle as the engine. The tranny you are talking about only weighs about 90 lbs you should be able to armstrong that into any position you want.
Don't pull it in with the bolts, bad idea. Also pressing on the clutch will release the clutch disk so if that was not aligned properly it will be free to move. Make sure when pressing on the clutch it is actually doing something
Don't pull it in with the bolts, bad idea. Also pressing on the clutch will release the clutch disk so if that was not aligned properly it will be free to move. Make sure when pressing on the clutch it is actually doing something
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I can't tell if the disk is loosening up when I press on the clutch pedal but the throwout bearing is defiantly pushing on the pressure plate a ton. The linkages are all adjusted I think the rod from the pedal to the zbar is just about maxed. I need to get an extra set of hands under the car with me. I'm 6'2" or so and 155 soaking wet so it is a pain by myself. 
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That thing has to weight more than 70. At any rate I'm going to wait until this weekend to do it so I can get a extra set of hands. I don't like getting pissed off just to get stuff done.
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That's dry, full of oil it is probably 75lbs The thing is, it is awkward trying to move it under the car. Try manhandling a Tremec TKO, now that's fun
The thing is, it is awkward trying to move it under the car. Try manhandling a Tremec TKO, now that's fun
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Ya, it isn't bad when you can carry it normally but trying to bench int and move it around when there is just barley enough space is what makes it especially difficult.
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If the trans shaft is binding on the thrust bushing now, then it will most likely drag when installed. This may cause problems shifting once it is in as it needs to spin freely seperate from the engine. (this is the clutch's job - to make a connection between the engine ind the trans)
I had a similar concern when I did mine last year. I just went aornd the tip / face of the input shaft with a flat file. Just enough to "clean up" the surface.
If it's hard to get in, imagine trying to get it out later.
something else I have seen in my past, (1962 Chevy II 3 speed manual) is a loose thrust bushing actually get cockeyed when the trans was removed. Nobody noticed till the replacement 4 speed was going in.
Also, if you can, get your finger in the bushing and feel for something.
or maybe a video camera where you may see "something"
whatever you do, don't force it in or draw it in with the trans/bell housing bolts. There have been a few posts since I've been here where it "wouldn't shift with the engine running and standing still" (1st paragraph above)
I had a similar concern when I did mine last year. I just went aornd the tip / face of the input shaft with a flat file. Just enough to "clean up" the surface.
If it's hard to get in, imagine trying to get it out later.
something else I have seen in my past, (1962 Chevy II 3 speed manual) is a loose thrust bushing actually get cockeyed when the trans was removed. Nobody noticed till the replacement 4 speed was going in.
Also, if you can, get your finger in the bushing and feel for something.
or maybe a video camera where you may see "something"
whatever you do, don't force it in or draw it in with the trans/bell housing bolts. There have been a few posts since I've been here where it "wouldn't shift with the engine running and standing still" (1st paragraph above)