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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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If I put a 4 channel amp in my car do I have to just run a set of RCA plugs from the head unit, and a set back to the head unit? Or do I have to run the speaker wires from the amp to all the speakers?
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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RCA from head unit to amp. Speaker wire (heavy gauge) from amp to speakers. Don't forget to run the blue (amp on/off) wire from the head unit to the amp also otherwise there will be no sound.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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RCA from head unit to amp. Speaker wire (heavy gauge) from amp to speakers. Don't forget to run the blue (amp on/off) wire from the head unit to the amp also otherwise there will be no sound.

You're right except for the gauge. Speakers, unless we're talking subs, won't need anything heavier than 16 gauge. I usually run 12 gauge to good subs and 10 gauge to VERY good subs, but I have never needed heavier than 16 gauge for speakers and mine are rated to handle 150 watts RMS per channel.

Tim, mount that amp in the back near the battery so you can run the power and ground in short lengths. Also, with the ground cable, the shorter the better.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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Durango Boy is right about gauge for the most part. For larger speakers or higher power levels you do want to increase the size of your cable, but size is not the most important component in choosing the right wire. Sound signals travel on the outside of each strand of wire within the cable, so it's as important, if not more important to purchase good quality cable with a high strand count. It's also key to keep the cable from oxidizing and having Oxygen-free cable to begin with will keep your system sounding good for much longer.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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I stand corrected on the size of the speaker wire and appreciate the excellent info from DB and tyancey00. The info on the signals traveling on the outside of each strand is very interesting and informative. Am in the middle of doing and install and have used Oxygen-free wire through out.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BTAL
I stand corrected on the size of the speaker wire and appreciate the excellent info from DB and tyancey00. The info on the signals traveling on the outside of each strand is very interesting and informative. Am in the middle of doing and install and have used Oxygen-free wire through out.

Post some pics of your install.
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Here's the first posting from yesterday that shows the project.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1970651

Then today's update and question regarding gauge lights not working - which am still looking for some info - and the "backwards/reversing clock".

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1971707

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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
You're right except for the gauge. Speakers, unless we're talking subs, won't need anything heavier than 16 gauge. I usually run 12 gauge to good subs and 10 gauge to VERY good subs, but I have never needed heavier than 16 gauge for speakers and mine are rated to handle 150 watts RMS per channel.

Tim, mount that amp in the back near the battery so you can run the power and ground in short lengths. Also, with the ground cable, the shorter the better.
you are stingy on the speaker wire gauges you use!

When I was in the car audio business I used 12ga speaker wire for all my good installs. Only used the cheap 16ga on the most basic installs.
Regular front and rear speakers used 12ga wire and subs got AT LEAST 12ga and many, many times they got 8ga wires to them.
Than again, most of the systems I was doing were competition systems competing on the national level, including a few national winning cars.
Part of the reason though was longer speaker wire runs that most people don't need to worry about as I would route the speaker leads away from any other wiring as to not pick up radiated noise and use twisted wire cables as an added precaution on many installs. The wire routing away from other wired made the wire runs longer than it normally would be. Did the same on the power and RCA leads. Typically ran all power and ground down one side of the car, RCA leads down the middle, and speaker leads all on the other side of the car.
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Originally Posted by tmacb
Durango Boy is right about gauge for the most part. For larger speakers or higher power levels you do want to increase the size of your cable, but size is not the most important component in choosing the right wire. Sound signals travel on the outside of each strand of wire within the cable, so it's as important, if not more important to purchase good quality cable with a high strand count. It's also key to keep the cable from oxidizing and having Oxygen-free cable to begin with will keep your system sounding good for much longer.
partially correct..... HIGHER FREQUENCIES run along the outside of each wire strand so a higher strand count in the speaker wire is better. LOWER FREQUENCIES such as lower mid-bass and low frequencies run more toward the inside of the strands so individual strand count in a speaker cable isn't very important. On subwoofer wiring you could even use a solid core cable and not hear an audible difference but the downside of course is the PITA to try running a solid core cable through the car so a higher strand count cable is still preferable even on thick wiring such as power cables because it's more flexible and easier to run.
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Originally Posted by BarryK
Regular front and rear speakers used 12ga wire and subs got AT LEAST 12ga and many, many times they got 8ga wires to them.

Wow, 12 gauge wire will handle about 350 watts RMS, and 10 gauge handles 560 watts RMS. Oh, and 8 gauge handles 900 watts. What the heck kind of speakers were you using in these competitions. You did say that all your competition front and rear speakers got 12 gauge and sometimes 8 gauge?

Oh and I fully agree that signal and power wires need separation.
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all speakers got 12ga except subs. those got either 12ga or 8ga.
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