do i have a 454???
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Burning Brakes
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
do i have a 454???
i cannot see any numbers on the block.. so i cannot eliminate it that way.. what i do know is the altenator and ac and stuff dont look like those i have seen on other 350's
on top of that, i have a haynes manual and was reading about power steering pump removal which i just did.. it says i have to remove the alternator brackets and stuff in order to remove the PS pump if it is a 454. with 350, im just supposed to be able to remove the bolts and go..
i guess what im askin is, on a 350, (79 vin/80 front end) does the alternator sit on the driver side, directly above the PS pump, where you kinda have to fanagle the PS cap off to fill it.. and does the AC sit on the passenger side? or do i have a 454 sittin in my engine compartment, all unaware of it?
would a 454 sit in there and me not know the difference? i thought 454 were pretty big in comparison..
am i crazy???
on top of that, i have a haynes manual and was reading about power steering pump removal which i just did.. it says i have to remove the alternator brackets and stuff in order to remove the PS pump if it is a 454. with 350, im just supposed to be able to remove the bolts and go..
i guess what im askin is, on a 350, (79 vin/80 front end) does the alternator sit on the driver side, directly above the PS pump, where you kinda have to fanagle the PS cap off to fill it.. and does the AC sit on the passenger side? or do i have a 454 sittin in my engine compartment, all unaware of it?
would a 454 sit in there and me not know the difference? i thought 454 were pretty big in comparison..
am i crazy???
Drifting
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real fast answer
350 has 4 bolts per valve cover
454 has 7 per cover
350 has exhaust ports together in middle, equal space on 454
IE:
350 O_OO_O
454 O_O_O_O
350 has 4 bolts per valve cover
454 has 7 per cover
350 has exhaust ports together in middle, equal space on 454
IE:
350 O_OO_O
454 O_O_O_O
Last edited by pbcanney; Apr 14, 2008 at 03:16 PM. Reason: and yes, you are crazy
Drifting
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That sounds exactly like the 350 sitting in my '80.....
Team Owner
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That's an easy fix. Pull the engine, and sell it. Buy a GenV or GenVI 454 from a truck or SUV and slap a carb manifold on it. They are roller engines. Change the cam, widen the exhaust, and spin the wheels to elongate your smile.
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Burning Brakes
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
i can tell a big block from a small block, but when the book says one thing, and your looking at it....
anyways, i dont even think the engine is close to a 79... i think it a 68 (at least the power steering pump is) i found that out today when i went to swap 'em at autozone...
i really need to pull the ac and get the numbers off this thing
so ive got 79 vin#, with 80's front end, and a 68 power steering pump.. horray for me!
anyways, i dont even think the engine is close to a 79... i think it a 68 (at least the power steering pump is) i found that out today when i went to swap 'em at autozone...
i really need to pull the ac and get the numbers off this thing
so ive got 79 vin#, with 80's front end, and a 68 power steering pump.. horray for me!
Melting Slicks
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From: North Bellmore Ny
St. Jude Donor '09
i can tell a big block from a small block, but when the book says one thing, and your looking at it....
anyways, i dont even think the engine is close to a 79... i think it a 68 (at least the power steering pump is) i found that out today when i went to swap 'em at autozone...
i really need to pull the ac and get the numbers off this thing
so ive got 79 vin#, with 80's front end, and a 68 power steering pump.. horray for me!
anyways, i dont even think the engine is close to a 79... i think it a 68 (at least the power steering pump is) i found that out today when i went to swap 'em at autozone...
i really need to pull the ac and get the numbers off this thing
so ive got 79 vin#, with 80's front end, and a 68 power steering pump.. horray for me!
Melting Slicks
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From: 406ci SB, AFR 180 Heads - 490 HP @5,600 RPM 529 lb-ft @ 4,100 RPM
sometimes you just have to scan thru the remarks to find your answer. But as stated, most here are very helpful, glad you now know it's a 350ci 
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Burning Brakes
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
i know... im just poutin.. i found some #'s on the back of the block, and one on a ac bracket were the front tag is supposed to be but isnt..
front is 74007354
back is 3970 (blob) 10..
with 43 GM next to that..
ima look em up and see what me gots
front is 74007354
back is 3970 (blob) 10..
with 43 GM next to that..
ima look em up and see what me gots
Melting Slicks
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From: North Bellmore Ny
St. Jude Donor '09
the front number 74007354 does that match your vin?
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Burning Brakes
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
i can absolutely not find the front pad. the front number i found was on a mounting bracket for the ac.. i work a 12 today, so when i get home tonight, ill take a look behind the distributor. ive got no tags or inspection, so i cant take it to the wash and degrease it, but ill find it (i hope)!!
on the front though.. its just not there. the motor was definately repainted, and they might have knocked it off.
on the front though.. its just not there. the motor was definately repainted, and they might have knocked it off.
Melting Slicks
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The word big is pretty relative. A 5.7 liter is referred to as a "big" engine where i come from, a 454 ? Well i guess that would be called a monster engine... Don't laugh at him, when I saw my first vette, i had to look very good to make out the difference, but finally the exhaust port spread is a real easy way.
Safety Car
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i can absolutely not find the front pad. the front number i found was on a mounting bracket for the ac.. i work a 12 today, so when i get home tonight, ill take a look behind the distributor. ive got no tags or inspection, so i cant take it to the wash and degrease it, but ill find it (i hope)!!
on the front though.. its just not there. the motor was definately repainted, and they might have knocked it off.
on the front though.. its just not there. the motor was definately repainted, and they might have knocked it off.
cc
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Burning Brakes
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
its been sitting in a garage not driven at all for at least 4 years.. so even a 454 would bog.. no to mention the previous owner did not know anything about tuning, or about mechanics in general.................. it helps to LOOK at a car once in a while.
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i can absolutely not find the front pad. the front number i found was on a mounting bracket for the ac.. i work a 12 today, so when i get home tonight, ill take a look behind the distributor. ive got no tags or inspection, so i cant take it to the wash and degrease it, but ill find it (i hope)!!
on the front though.. its just not there. the motor was definately repainted, and they might have knocked it off.
on the front though.. its just not there. the motor was definately repainted, and they might have knocked it off.
Here is the engine stamp pad as best as I can show in a picture. Picture yourself standing on the passenger side, leaning in over the fender, and looking down at the timing cover and water pump.
