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Old May 8, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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I am in the planing stage of some minor hop up work on what is now a mostly stock 77 L-48. The engine has a Performer RPM manifold and Holley 670 street avenger carb. But is other wise stock,
I am looking at Twisted wedge 64cc street/strip heads, A crane, 327/350 HP cam, with 1.6-1 rockers. should give me a lift of approx .480 a set of summit long tube headers into a duel chambered exhaust.
(the exhaust is already on the car).
I am thinking the carb my be a bit small. What do you all think?
And also would like to know, what would my compression ratio be with the stock dished pistons with the 64cc heads?
Also of note, what if I put in flat top pistons?
The car is a street driven toy that will never see a drag strip.
I have had the car for many years. And now that I am getting divorced I would like to hop her up a bit.
My budget is not endless, so I want to get it right the first time.
Just looking for a bit more power, Must run on pump gas and not get to snotty to drive in heavy traffic.
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I think flat top pistons and 64cc heads will get you roughly a 9.75:1 CR. That's rough, and will change based on the other components involved.
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how could other components change the compression ratio? Swept displacement verses combustion chamber volume = ratio
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Originally Posted by 4-vettes
how could other components change the compression ratio? Swept displacement verses combustion chamber volume = ratio

I was thinking of things like a decked block, or shaved heads.
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Originally Posted by 4-vettes
how could other components change the compression ratio? Swept displacement verses combustion chamber volume = ratio

or head gasket thickness.
any of which could be difference between being just under the CR to ping...........or not
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Granted. lets just say I use standard over the counter Fel-pro head gaskets. I think I read somewhere that the the stock heads were at about 76cc's. right now I don't wish to take the engine apart until I do get new heads. So cc,ing the stock heads just isn't practical right now. anyone have any better info?
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Stock pistons + 76cc heads + normal gasket = 8.0-8.2/1 CR
Stock pistons + 64cc heads + normal gasket = 8.75-9.1/1 CR

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ARMV (actual results may vary)
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The Twisted Wedge heads flow real well but they side load the guides causing increased valvetrain wear
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I find that very interesting. Never heard this before. What type of wear are we talking about? It has takin me almost 20 years to put on about 40K miles. Is this a real fast guide wear problem?
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gm fastburns
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What about GM fastburns? More info please. Price? Power?
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another short answer. what are AFR heads? Power? Price? Who sells them?
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Originally Posted by 4-vettes
another short answer. what are AFR heads? Power? Price? Who sells them?
Dude ever heard of www.google.com? If not give it a try, you will like it.

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afr are some of the best, but you'll pay for it.
you already have the rpm intake. what about getting the rpm heads and cam so it's all matched for performance.
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I am pretty sure on the cam I wish to use. I work on Harley's for a living, Run a dyno in a performance Shop. Don't like Edelbrock heads for Harley's. Simply don't live up to there promises. Still looking for a clear answer on compression. Also, if I Google everything, What do I need this forum for?
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Originally Posted by 4-vettes
Also, if I Google everything, What do I need this forum for?
A little basic research before asking questions is courteous. If you are too lazy to type in a few letters then point, click and read then I am too lazy to type my opinion for you.
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I did do a fair bit of research before I posted in the first place. Could not seem to find a reliable source for the compression ratio's. Thought I would ask, surely someone on this forum would know small block chevy compression with different heads.
I can Google all night if I want to. Much nicer talking with real people.
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Originally Posted by Fast81
Stock pistons + 76cc heads + normal gasket = 8.0-8.2/1 CR
Stock pistons + 64cc heads + normal gasket = 8.75-9.1/1 CR

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Originally Posted by 4-vettes
I did do a fair bit of research before I posted in the first place. Could not seem to find a reliable source for the compression ratio's. Thought I would ask, surely someone on this forum would know small block chevy compression with different heads.
I can Google all night if I want to. Much nicer talking with real people.

I think your compression question using stock dished pistons was answered for you...unless that's not the answer you wanted.

I also added that using flat top pistons and 64cc heads would get you roughly a 9.75:1 CR.
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Brodix IK-180's are good upgrade aluminum heads... Research it.
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