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Old May 10, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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I have a 1979 L-82 with a 350 automatic. I need to install a new flex plate. I would like to purchase an aftermarket heavier duty than original. Flex plates are listed by Summit and Jegs for internal or external balanced engines. How do you know if your engine is internally or externally balanced?
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If it's really a 350 with a stroke of 3.48 inches, it is internally balanced. To verify, the GM balancer will be machined smooth all around the circumference. If it is stroked 383, 400, or 406, that uses a 3.75 inch stroke, it is typically externally balanced (unless very heavy mallory metal has been embedded into the crank's counterweights, which is very expensive).

An external balance harmonic damper for the 383, 400 or 406 SBC can be identified by a depressed zone with a rough as cast finish over a portion of its circumference; the remainder of the circumference will be machined smooth like the balancers for 350 and smaller SBCs. The imbalance of this damper contributes to the balance of the counterweights to put the engine in proper balance.

Typically, the flex plate for 383s, 400s, and 406s is also "external" balanced, and can be spotted by noting an counterweight welded to the flexplate.

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Originally Posted by larrywalk
If it's really a 350 with a stroke of 3.48 inches, it is internally balanced. To verify, the GM balancer will be machined smooth all around the circumference. If it is stroked 383, 400, or 406, that uses a 3.75 inch stroke, it is typically externally balanced (unless very heavy mallory metal has been embedded into the crank's counterweights, which is very expensive).

An external balance harmonic damper for the 383, 400 or 406 SBC can be identified by a depressed zone with a rough as cast finish over a portion of its circumference; the remainder of the circumference will be machined smooth like the balancers for 350 and smaller SBCs. The imbalance of this damper contributes to the balance of the counterweights to put the engine in proper balance.

Typically, the flex plate for 383s, 400s, and 406s is also "external" balanced, and can be spotted by noting an counterweight welded to the flexplate.

Cheers,
Larry
Also the 350 with the one peice rear main seal as they are extrernaly balanced on the rear only.
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Thanks Larry..
My engine is the original 350 with an 8 inch balancer. I'm going to go with the internally balanced flex plate.

Ken
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Originally Posted by larrywalk
If it is stroked 383, 400, or 406, that uses a 3.75 inch stroke, it is typically externally balanced (unless very heavy mallory metal has been embedded into the crank's counterweights, which is very expensive).
There are new 383 and 400 cranks made that are internally balanced.
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