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Old May 20, 2008 | 11:07 PM
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I finally got the new motor in (see sig...not a new crate motor, but a freshly rebuilt 350) and after about a dozen attempts to get the distributor clocked correctly, got it fired. It fires right up and runs, and the timing is set and coming in completely at 36 degrees by 3000rpm. The problem is, it idles pretty rough, and I can feel a misfire or shudder randomly throughout the cycle. It feels like it fires really hard on one cylinder, but not every time throughout the cycle. I installed new plugs before firing the motor for the first time, and it has new plug wires, cap, rotor, etc. I have tried both a Holly 650 DP and an Edelbrock Performer 600 and both carbs have the same symptoms. If I give it some gas, it smooths out until about 1200 rpm, where it gets a pretty good vibration until about 2000rpm and then smooths out again and runs like a top.

I thought about changing the plugs again, thinking I may have fouled one or two up during break in (had a vacuum leak at the headlight nozzle on the intake and had a couple glowing headers). Could it be something this easy? I also worry that the balancer is off, but that wouldn't really explain the misfire. Help...

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Old May 21, 2008 | 07:51 AM
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I would look for another vacuum leak. It's a symptom of that rough idle.

Does it act the same way even when it's hot?
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Old May 21, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
I would look for another vacuum leak.

Start with the simple stuff first.
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Old May 21, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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Does it act the same way even when it's hot?
OK, I'll check all the bolts for tightness and check the hoses. It acts the same all the time. I also bought a new set of plugs that I'm going to throw in, and I'll pull the valve covers and double check the rockers for tightness.
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Old May 21, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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Spray some starter fluid around the base of the carb, etc while it's idling. If the idle goes up, you've found your leak.

You an also cup your hands over the carb, engine should die. If not, carb is pulling vaccuum from somewhere it shouldn't be.
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Old May 21, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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I usually just cap off all vacuum ports on the motor to check for leaks, vs. checking through the whole system. It won't pinpoint the leak, but you can narrow it down to a port if there is one. I once had a brand new vacuum cap that was split open connected to the carb, drove me nuts for a long time, was the last thing I expected to be wrong.
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I am an idiot. 3 and 4 plug wires were reversed... Thanks for all the help, though...I did manage to find a few vacuum leaks as well, so it should be running really smooth now.
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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I think I learned the firing order on these cars before I knew my ABC's!
Glad to help.
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Good call Sly, great work. Quil, glad it'll be running much better.
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That was an easy one, DB! But thanks!
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The sorry thing is, I had already double checked it once...
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Old May 22, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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sad comment.... but one time i ran mine COMPLETELY backwards... and it ran too! it was like double backwards... wrong side labeled one.. and wrong way. (like clockwise vs. counter clockwise)
i still dont really know how it ran... but whatever
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