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Old May 30, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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I hope what goes around comes around. I've helped a few forum members in the past when needed and even let guys bring their problem childs to the house so they could use my lift. I guess now it's my turn to ask for a favor.

About 2 months ago I lost all power to my brake lights, headlights and dash lights. I'm done trying to figure this thing out so I'm wondering if there are any electrical gurus that live close (middle Georgia) that would be willing to come give me a hand. I really would like to drive this thing.


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Old May 30, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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I'm sure you already checked it but....... did you carefully check all the grounds? you know that probably 80% of electrical issues on these cars is the ground.
sorry, other than that obvious place to start I'd be clueless
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Old May 30, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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Have you checked the black fuse link at the horn relay? If all your power has gone I'd check the brown fuse link down at the starter.

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Old May 30, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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This is a stretch, but here's waht happened to me.

I was driving out in the country in NC, 10:00pm or so with no moon. Roads are 2 lane with no bail out. It was friggin dark, so I tapped the high beam button....damn, the headlights and interior lights went out..scared the sheet outta me. Hit the high beam button again and everything came back.

Turns out that the wiring was bad for the headlights/high beam. Fixed the wiring and it hasn't happened again.
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Old May 30, 2008 | 07:51 PM
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I agree with Wattac2, check the fuse link at the horn relay to the red wire which feeds both brake lights and light switch.
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Old May 31, 2008 | 12:54 AM
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Thanks for the advice so far guys. I've had a couple of PM's offering help which is exactly what I'm needing. Hopefully you guys can steer me in the right direction before we get that far.

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I'm sure you already checked it but....... did you carefully check all the grounds? you know that probably 80% of electrical issues on these cars is the ground.
sorry, other than that obvious place to start I'd be clueless
So far I've only checked the grounds at the radiator support. I don't have an AIM manual so I don't know where all the grounds are.

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Have you checked the black fuse link at the horn relay? If all your power has gone I'd check the brown fuse link down at the starter.

Andy
Excuse my ignorance, but I don't know what the fuseable link looks like - much less where it is.

I should have mentioned that the car starts and runs fine.
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Old May 31, 2008 | 01:18 AM
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Fuseable links look like a snake that just swallowed a rat. It is a bulge in the harness. I'd love to come down the GA and help it gas wasn't so high. Good luck
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Fuse links are also smaller wires than the ones they are tied to and are terminated by larger plastic tubes/terminators. They are about 2-3 inches long, colored differenent from the wire they are in line with, and if "blown", may be burnt/black/charcoal. One is by the horn relay, one by the starter, and a couple used for the ammeter, they are orange (for a '69) and are by the horn relay and close to the wiper.

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Old May 31, 2008 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by sperkins
Excuse my ignorance, but I don't know what the fuseable link looks like - much less where it is.
Here is a pic of a 69-this one has 2 fusible links at the horn relay.From the horn relay follow the orange and or black wires down(2 wires left side of pic) about 4" to a piece of round black plastic about 1/2" x 1".Some think the round black plastic "is" the fusible link but it is not.Inside the black plastic is a crimp connector.So the fusible link is the piece wire between the black plastic and the horn relay.Grab hold of the black plastic and pull it down and away from the horn relay trying to stretch the orange or black wire-if the wire will stretch the fusible link is bad.(Sperkins I think you'll find the black wire next to the orange in your case will stretch.)


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Speaking of fusible links here are 2 pics of a link that is in the "middle" of a wire.In other words this link has the black pastic crimp connectors on each end.This link has been getting hot but is not burned in two.First pic shows with black plastic in place and the second with only the black plastic removed to show the crimp connectors.The fusible link wire is in between the 2 crimped connections.Hope this helps.

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Old May 31, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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really, really stupid question, but did you check all the fuses? they are there so you dont blow your lights out.. thought i would ask
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Old May 31, 2008 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DWncchs
Here is a pic of a 69-this one has 2 fusible links at the horn relay.From the horn relay follow the orange and or black wires down(2 wires left side of pic) about 4" to a piece of round black plastic about 1/2" x 1".Some think the round black plastic "is" the fusible link but it is not.Inside the black plastic is a crimp connector.So the fusible link is the piece wire between the black plastic and the horn relay.Grab hold of the black plastic and pull it down and away from the horn relay trying to stretch the orange or black wire-if the wire will stretch the fusible link is bad.(Sperkins I think you'll find the black wire next to the orange in your case will stretch.)

Great info and photo!
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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Well figure this. I pulled the dimmer switch from my '73 Olds and popped it in the Vette and now I have headlights (low and high beams). But I still have no dash lights, tail lights or brake lights. What the hell?!






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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 11:12 PM
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Did these all go at once?? I’m at work right now but when I get home I can look at the wiring diagram and see if I can find a common area. Possibly a ground or the switch. To me the switch would be the place to look because everything does turn on from there.

Edit>> I guess the break lights dont go through the switch.....I will check the diagram in the morning.
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