wiper door opens on start up
Without having to replace the entire vacumm system, would you all have any suggestions on what maybe causing this to happen?
It maybe something I might have to live with, owning a 36 year old car.
Thankx
Charlie
1972 Red Convertible
North Beach, MD.
http://www.71corvette.com/wiper.html
The door opening and closing just means that on start up the entire system has NO vacuum left in it.When there is no vacuum in the system the wiper door relay go to the "open" position-when the engine starts the vacuum builds and the first thing to react is the wiper actuator and the door pops up,then the vacuum builds enough to tell the relay to go to the "closed" position.This condition usually comes from a bad check valve BUT "any leak" that will bleed the entire system will do this.
The door opening and closing just means that on start up the entire system has NO vacuum left in it.When there is no vacuum in the system the wiper door relay go to the "open" position-when the engine starts the vacuum builds and the first thing to react is the wiper actuator and the door pops up,then the vacuum builds enough to tell the relay to go to the "closed" position.This condition usually comes from a bad check valve BUT "any leak" that will bleed the entire system will do this.
My headlights and wiper door was doing the same thing last month. Process of elimination. I new I and a bad manual override valve cause it wasnt there, so I got a new one and still had the problem. Checked the in line check valve and replaced cause I could blow thru it both ways.
I checked and replaced the grommet and check valve on the power brake booster as well. Dont think it effects the wiper/headlight but will be a cause to lose vacuum.
At this point the head lights were good to go but the wiper door would come up still.
Started searching again and found a lot of hoses that were bearly hanging off the nozzles of either the Tees and or the relay and or the valves.
I had read here to put a sealer RTV or RVT on the OUTSIDE of the nozzles/ nipples and attach the hoses & let dry make sure you cant turn the hoses as well.
If the ends of the hoses were wollered out or I could turn them easy I cut off the ends maybe a 1/2" if I had enough hose lenght.
All the hoses to the vac tank were all loose, and so were the hoses going to the wiper actuator on the fire wall.
After doing all of this and letting all the new sealed fitting and hoses dry everything tested fine on the second start up of the car.
I was getting ready to start spending a lot of money trying to fix a problem that wasnt there by changing out parts that cost a lot of dollars.
The over ride valve and check valve was right at $25.00 and I didnt have to gut the dash and or replace the entire vacuum system.
Just some ideas that help me fix my problem.
Hope it helps
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My headlights and wiper door was doing the same thing last month. Process of elimination. I new I and a bad manual override valve cause it wasnt there, so I got a new one and still had the problem. Checked the in line check valve and replaced cause I could blow thru it both ways.
I checked and replaced the grommet and check valve on the power brake booster as well. Dont think it effects the wiper/headlight but will be a cause to lose vacuum.
At this point the head lights were good to go but the wiper door would come up still.
Started searching again and found a lot of hoses that were bearly hanging off the nozzles of either the Tees and or the relay and or the valves.
I had read here to put a sealer RTV or RVT on the OUTSIDE of the nozzles/ nipples and attach the hoses & let dry make sure you cant turn the hoses as well.
If the ends of the hoses were wollered out or I could turn them easy I cut off the ends maybe a 1/2" if I had enough hose lenght.
All the hoses to the vac tank were all loose, and so were the hoses going to the wiper actuator on the fire wall.
After doing all of this and letting all the new sealed fitting and hoses dry everything tested fine on the second start up of the car.
I was getting ready to start spending a lot of money trying to fix a problem that wasnt there by changing out parts that cost a lot of dollars.
The over ride valve and check valve was right at $25.00 and I didnt have to gut the dash and or replace the entire vacuum system.
Just some ideas that help me fix my problem.
Hope it helps
Do this first before spending any money
http://www.71corvette.com/wiper.html
I know for my headlights the other spot I need to hit is on the main switch in the dash. There are two halves to that switch and they don't hold their seal very well. So when I have time I'll pull that part of the dash and rtv the outside of the switch.
Look for loose hoses or hoses without a good seal and hit them with a little rtv.
The door opening and closing just means that on start up the entire system has NO vacuum left in it.When there is no vacuum in the system the wiper door relay go to the "open" position-when the engine starts the vacuum builds and the first thing to react is the wiper actuator and the door pops up,then the vacuum builds enough to tell the relay to go to the "closed" position.This condition usually comes from a bad check valve BUT "any leak" that will bleed the entire system will do this.
You can disagree all you want I know when I had the same problem and someone pointed me to the link I provided I did it and it fixed my problem. This was the only thing I did to fix it too. So if you still disagree thats fine but I have pratical experiance and know what I'm talking about. Guess I'll go back to Vette***where experiance is appreciated.
http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...goryCode=4016E
The door opening and closing just means that on start up the entire system has NO vacuum left in it.When there is no vacuum in the system the wiper door relay go to the "open" position-when the engine starts the vacuum builds and the first thing to react is the wiper actuator and the door pops up,then the vacuum builds enough to tell the relay to go to the "closed" position.This condition usually comes from a bad check valve BUT "any leak" that will bleed the entire system will do this.
Not questioning your answer just looking for a answer as I ripped off my crash pad to investigate.
(You werent talking about the 12v vacuum solenoid were you?)



















