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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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I finally pulled my old timing chain today and found the factory chain was 180* off. My timing mark on the balancer has never lined up when I've tried to check timing, its always on the opposite side. I know the balancer slipped because it walked back towards the cover.

After rotating the crank and getting the #1 piston TDC, I pulled the cover and noticed a couple nylon teeth broke. Looking a little closer I noticed the mark on the cam gear was down and the mark on the crank gear was also down. I even rotated the crank again to make sure. Did GM do this on purpose?

Actually after all this, it still appeared to have slipped a tooth.

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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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I can't understand how it ran...but those plastic gears, I have a NEW one on the garage wall for grins,.....are total junk....

the crank dot on the timing gear should be at 12 oclock and the keyway as I recall is at 2 oclock....then the CAM gear can be in line on top OR on bottom, just depends wether cyl 1 or 6 is in compression for TDC both are actually TDC at that time, but only one at a time is in compression/firing order....both valves closed...

amazing how them suckers can skip teeth and still run....I actually got a old van home that a ways once...loosened the dizzy upon knowing what happened and played with enough timing to chug it home...saved my *** about 150 bux....
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I got it lined up and have the new set ready to go on tomorrow. Just got to get the crank gear off.
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Timing chain cant be 180 off.Anything else but 180
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Originally Posted by DWncchs
Timing chain cant be 180 off.Anything else but 180
May not have been exactly 180 off. With it in the car it wasnt easy to tell how far. I have been going over it all night and cant make sense of it.
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With #1 at TDC, both timing marks must point straight up 12 o'clock
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With #1 at TDC, both timing marks must point straight up 12 o'clock
Rotate the crank one more time (1 at TDC ) and the crank timing mark will be up (12 o'clock) and the cam timing gear wiil be down ( 6 p'clock ). Cam timing gear is twice as big as crank, rotates at half the speed and this is reason you can't be 180 deg off
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Cam mark down and crank mark up is TDC on #6
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