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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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when changing from the stock 82 gears do i have to buy a whole new dif or can i just change the gears?
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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The gears can be changed. I went with 3.73's in my '81.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ngroat7007
when changing from the stock 82 gears do i have to buy a whole new dif or can i just change the gears?
I wanted to have the deepest-possible gear in my '82, and was told that 3.73 was as-low-as I could go without replacing the carrier specifically for 4.11s and lower:
I was also told that ZIP Products makes either 3.90 or 4.11 (maybe both ?) that is capatable with the OEM carrier, but when they didn't retrun my e-mail requesting further info, I settled for 3.73s
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 04:02 PM
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A 4.11 gear normally uses a different carrier. The 4.11's however are produced in thick gears that will fit a 3 series carrier.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Belgian1979vette
A 4.11 gear normally uses a different carrier. The 4.11's however are produced in thick gears that will fit a 3 series carrier.
make sure you get the thick gear made for the 3-series carrier
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 07:58 PM
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dheck with duntov performance i belive that you can get a set of 4:11 for a series 3 case. they are a vendor on this site.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Belgian1979vette
A 4.11 gear normally uses a different carrier. The 4.11's however are produced in thick gears that will fit a 3 series carrier.
I got mine from Zip Products:
http://www.zip-products.com/Zip/prod...F2499B8A6B5F43
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I believe the above link is for the '63-'79 Corvette IRS, but the '80-up C3s, such as the Original Poster's, uses a Dana-44 rear-end, and I'm not-sure anybody makes a thick-geared set for those carriers.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 01:05 AM
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so it seems like a 3.73 is the best choice?
aside from that a new 5 speed would be in line?
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This is the correct link for the 4.11's from Zip for your '82 diff: http://www.zip-products.com/Zip/prod...ED64B868D756EE

Now if you're considering a 5-speed conversion, Gene over at Keisler convinced me that the 3.73's along with the TKO-500 would have my '81 launching like it has 4.11's in it when compared to the original stuff. I don't know how that calculation was determined but I assume it is because the gearing in the tranny is also different.
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Originally Posted by ShinodaVette
This is the correct link for the 4.11's from Zip for your '82 diff: http://www.zip-products.com/Zip/prod...ED64B868D756EE

Now if you're considering a 5-speed conversion, Gene over at Keisler convinced me that the 3.73's along with the TKO-500 would have my '81 launching like it has 4.11's in it when compared to the original stuff. I don't know how that calculation was determined but I assume it is because the gearing in the tranny is also different.
I stand corrected; forgot he needed 1982 diff gears.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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I'm sure one of our resident differential gurus will chime in any moment, but also take a look or call tomsdifferentials.com.
These guys have some of the best hardware available and are great to deal with. I just got all my diff internals from them and also run their spindles.

One quote on their web sites states:
When changing ratios of 2.72-3.73 to gear ratios of 3.92-5.89, the posi case or carrier unit must be changed.

See how lucky I am with my 77? Theoretically I could run a 4.56 using my 3-carrier (I went with the 3.73, though, as I have a 0.64 OD tranny)

Good luck !
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Gear selection depends on the engine and its powerband and the trans used.
The guys are right about the 80+ diffs. You will have to check with the vendors for this.
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Originally Posted by ShinodaVette
This is the correct link for the 4.11's from Zip for your '82 diff: http://www.zip-products.com/Zip/prod...ED64B868D756EE

Now if you're considering a 5-speed conversion, Gene over at Keisler convinced me that the 3.73's along with the TKO-500 would have my '81 launching like it has 4.11's in it when compared to the original stuff. I don't know how that calculation was determined but I assume it is because the gearing in the tranny is also different.
I believe that is exactly how that computation is made, by comparing the 'Effective First Gear' ratios against each-other.


Because I wanted my Z28 to move as-quickly-as possible off the line (for lightning-quick Reaction Times) when I bracket-race it, I used extra-low gear-set for the THM400, with a 2.75:1 First Gear, insetad of the OEM 2.48, with the 4.10 gears, which would let the car hit the Finish Line very-close to the RPM limit I wanted to use.

With the OEM gears and 4.10s, my 'Effective First Gear' was 10.168:1, but the 2.75:1 gear-set is 11.275 'Effective' gear-ratio:
11.275 div/by the OEM ratio of 2.48:1 makes the car 'feel' like it has 4.56 (really 4.546) gears off the line.
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Originally Posted by ShinodaVette
This is the correct link for the 4.11's from Zip for your '82 diff: http://www.zip-products.com/Zip/prod...ED64B868D756EE

Now if you're considering a 5-speed conversion, Gene over at Keisler convinced me that the 3.73's along with the TKO-500 would have my '81 launching like it has 4.11's in it when compared to the original stuff. I don't know how that calculation was determined but I assume it is because the gearing in the tranny is also different.
I like this idea thanks for the help guys i think the 5 speed and 3.73s are in my future
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