Updatd CS Alternator Swap Paper !!!
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Burning Brakes
I had a CS144 shipped out to me from this guy howent@hotmail.com, he had a good price ($239.95 including wire, pulley and shipping) on a polished CS144, including the wire adapter and a 35 ohm resistor. Built according to the old DB paper. He also has chromed alternators. His shipping was dead cheap only 39 dollars to the Netherlands. Drop him a line.
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#26
Le Mans Master
No, the 84-85 Vette uses the same connections as 69-82. The alternator is a bit different, but it is still a SI series. It has better idle amperage than a stock C3 alternator, but is still only 120 or so amps max. The C4s after 86 do have the right connections.
If you do a swap I recommend the CS144 over the CS130. Failure rates may be better than they used to be, but why take a chance when the 144 is proven, same connections, roughly the same price?
If you do a swap I recommend the CS144 over the CS130. Failure rates may be better than they used to be, but why take a chance when the 144 is proven, same connections, roughly the same price?
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Burning Brakes
No, the 84-85 Vette uses the same connections as 69-82. The alternator is a bit different, but it is still a SI series. It has better idle amperage than a stock C3 alternator, but is still only 120 or so amps max. The C4s after 86 do have the right connections.
If you do a swap I recommend the CS144 over the CS130. Failure rates may be better than they used to be, but why take a chance when the 144 is proven, same connections, roughly the same price?
If you do a swap I recommend the CS144 over the CS130. Failure rates may be better than they used to be, but why take a chance when the 144 is proven, same connections, roughly the same price?
What is the best alt, cs144 to get what year car and make, 140 amp
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Thanks Durango for the paper. I wanted to replace the crappy reman altenator on my 71 anyway & your article has shown me the light!
Thanks for your work.
Ben
Thanks for your work.
Ben
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Safety Car
They will come with a serpentine pulley. To remove it, just hit it with an impact wrench and it will zip right off. You can mount a V-pulley and zip it right back on with the same impact. It takes 1 minute to do this job.
You have to re-clock the alternator out 180degrees to put the CS electrical connector up on top pointing towards the drivers fender. Again this is very easy to do with removal of the 4 hold-down bolts. You need to use 2 pins to hold the brushes in place to remount the housings together. This job takes maybe 5-10 minutes, if your watching TV and chewing gum in your garage at the same time.
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Melting Slicks
I'm a believer in going to the CS144 alt as well. All my research on the subject pointed me towards the beefier model. I talked to a few of the local retailers and they agreed that the CS133 has a high failure rate (overheating) due to the smaller case and not enough ventilation. I changed out three of them on my Fathers Bonneville. It only had 50000miles after the third one.
The guys in the C4 forum tend to agree as lots of them upgrade to the CS144. Here is my setup. I upgraded to fuel injection and dual fans. My charge wire (back to the battery) is #4ga.
The guys in the C4 forum tend to agree as lots of them upgrade to the CS144. Here is my setup. I upgraded to fuel injection and dual fans. My charge wire (back to the battery) is #4ga.
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You have to re-clock the alternator out 180degrees to put the CS electrical connector up on top pointing towards the drivers fender. Again this is very easy to do with removal of the 4 hold-down bolts. You need to use 2 pins to hold the brushes in place to remount the housings together. This job takes maybe 5-10 minutes, if your watching TV and chewing gum in your garage at the same time.
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Hydroboost unit courtesy of DB BTW.
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Hydroboost unit courtesy of DB BTW.
I'm getting ready to put together a hosted PDF on how to clock an alternator. Easy as described...BUT, for those trying it be very careful not to get one or more of the case bolts tightened more than the others. If that case it torqued and twisted the bearing in the front of the case can bind, overheat, and fail. Also it's tricky to get the brushes and springs back in the first time you try it. It can be frustrating.
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I'm getting ready to put together a hosted PDF on how to clock an alternator. Easy as described...BUT, for those trying it be very careful not to get one or more of the case bolts tightened more than the others. If that case it torqued and twisted the bearing in the front of the case can bind, overheat, and fail. Also it's tricky to get the brushes and springs back in the first time you try it. It can be frustrating.
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I'm getting ready to put together a hosted PDF on how to clock an alternator. Easy as described...BUT, for those trying it be very careful not to get one or more of the case bolts tightened more than the others. If that case it torqued and twisted the bearing in the front of the case can bind, overheat, and fail. Also it's tricky to get the brushes and springs back in the first time you try it. It can be frustrating.
paper yet
thanks
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No, depending on the year and style of the case, sometimes the rear shaft bearing will come out of the case instead of the front, and sometimes the brushes are worn and the holes no longer line up so you can't retain them with a pin before you even crack the case. Oh, AND, some guys like learning using pictures and detailed step by step instructions. I disassembled one not long ago for the purpose of showing all the steps. I certainly don't mind helping someone out by putting them into a paper they can view and use as a reference for their first time.
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