C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

? on priming the oil pump (small block)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 14, 2009 | 01:44 PM
  #1  
dmayhew's Avatar
dmayhew
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,254
Likes: 5
From: Brown Summit North Carolina
Default ? on priming the oil pump (small block)

I was recently told by a local car guy that when priming the oil pump to get oil to the mains and rockers arms on an initial start yp after installing a new cam that I jave to use a old distributor and not a simple rod that will spin the pump shaft.

He said that the simple rod would only send oil to the mains and not to the top of the notor.

He said that a old distributor w/o the cam gear would send oil to the top of the motor.


Is this correct? and what is the difference that causes this to happen?



Thanks
David
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2009 | 01:59 PM
  #2  
'75's Avatar
'75
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 6,422
Likes: 591
From: McHenry Illinois
Default

Where the distributor fits into the block it will direct the oil to the upper end rather than letting it dump down the distributor hole. Many auto parts stores have this tool for loan.
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2009 | 02:20 PM
  #3  
QuicheLorraine's Avatar
QuicheLorraine
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 343
Likes: 0
From: San Diego CA
Default

Originally Posted by dmayhew
I was recently told by a local car guy that when priming the oil pump to get oil to the mains and rockers arms on an initial start yp after installing a new cam that I jave to use a old distributor and not a simple rod that will spin the pump shaft.

He said that the simple rod would only send oil to the mains and not to the top of the notor.

He said that a old distributor w/o the cam gear would send oil to the top of the motor.


Is this correct? and what is the difference that causes this to happen?



Thanks
David

David if you think about it, your 'car guy's statement makes no sense at all. If you are spinning the shaft and the pump is pumping oil, it cannot possibly make any difference WHAT YOU ARE USING TO SPIN THE SHAFT!

Once it's spinning and the pump pressurizes, oil will get through the motor if you do it long enough and fast enough. Also rotate the engine 180 degrees, and re-pressurize it.

Watch your oil pressure guage, or at the very least leave the rocker covers off & don't stop spinning it until there is oil at the top.
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2009 | 02:33 PM
  #4  
GDaina's Avatar
GDaina
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 16,978
Likes: 7
From: In Dreams There Is Truth Ohio
Default

Actually using the distributor with the cam gear ground down is better than just a priming rod...I bought the rod, it's a piece of junk..it wobbled all over the place and threw up oil through the hole.

If anyone wants this pos ****, it's theirs...nothing like a distributor to prime the top end...
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2009 | 02:57 PM
  #5  
SteveG75's Avatar
SteveG75
Race Director
Veteran: Navy
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 10,047
Likes: 675
From: FL
Default

Originally Posted by QuicheLorraine
David if you think about it, your 'car guy's statement makes no sense at all. If you are spinning the shaft and the pump is pumping oil, it cannot possibly make any difference WHAT YOU ARE USING TO SPIN THE SHAFT!

Once it's spinning and the pump pressurizes, oil will get through the motor if you do it long enough and fast enough. Also rotate the engine 180 degrees, and re-pressurize it.

Watch your oil pressure guage, or at the very least leave the rocker covers off & don't stop spinning it until there is oil at the top.
WRONG.

You need a priming tool or old distributor shaft. The reason for this is that the priming tool/distributor has the plug that distributes oil to both sides of the system. Look at the tool below:

That part replicates the bottom of the distributor shaft and ensures that oil gets to both lifter galleries. Look right above the cam gear.
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2009 | 03:08 PM
  #6  
willem wallace's Avatar
willem wallace
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 895
Likes: 4
From: whitman massachusetts
Default Pump

Summit Racing part #SUM-901010, Good quality pump,$17.00 plus shipping. Just add it into your next order. You will spend that much in time,converting an old distributor.
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2009 | 03:36 PM
  #7  
midyearvette's Avatar
midyearvette
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime Gold
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 5,691
Likes: 12
From: columbus oh
Default

Originally Posted by willem wallace
Summit Racing part #SUM-901010, Good quality pump,$17.00 plus shipping. Just add it into your next order. You will spend that much in time,converting an old distributor.
true ..the rod alone will NOT do the job you are looking for.....
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2009 | 10:57 PM
  #8  
tfi racing's Avatar
tfi racing
Drifting
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,832
Likes: 38
From: Cedar,BC
Default

Correct,on a Chev you MUST have the modded old distributor or the tool to get oil pressure.It is also a good idea to give the crank a turn or two with a breaker bar during the priming process so all the passages see oil.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Mar 15, 2009 | 12:12 AM
  #9  
fauxrs2's Avatar
fauxrs2
Drifting
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,738
Likes: 2
From: San diego ca
Default

Originally Posted by QuicheLorraine
David if you think about it, your 'car guy's statement makes no sense at all. If you are spinning the shaft and the pump is pumping oil, it cannot possibly make any difference WHAT YOU ARE USING TO SPIN THE SHAFT!

Once it's spinning and the pump pressurizes, oil will get through the motor if you do it long enough and fast enough. Also rotate the engine 180 degrees, and re-pressurize it.

Watch your oil pressure guage, or at the very least leave the rocker covers off & don't stop spinning it until there is oil at the top.
it makes a huge bit of difference, without the correct priming tool - or the modified distributor, no oil gets where it needs to be...the distributor body actually is part of the oil gallery, without it, or the proper tool ....well you get the point
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2009 | 04:14 AM
  #10  
QuicheLorraine's Avatar
QuicheLorraine
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 343
Likes: 0
From: San Diego CA
Default

Originally Posted by SteveG75
WRONG.

You need a priming tool or old distributor shaft. The reason for this is that the priming tool/distributor has the plug that distributes oil to both sides of the system. Look at the tool below:

That part replicates the bottom of the distributor shaft and ensures that oil gets to both lifter galleries. Look right above the cam gear.
Wow I just learned something new! WOW!~ Thanks for setting me straight.
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2009 | 09:34 AM
  #11  
dmayhew's Avatar
dmayhew
Thread Starter
Drifting
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,254
Likes: 5
From: Brown Summit North Carolina
Default

Originally Posted by fauxrs2
it makes a huge bit of difference, without the correct priming tool - or the modified distributor, no oil gets where it needs to be...the distributor body actually is part of the oil gallery, without it, or the proper tool ....well you get the point
Thanks for the detailed answer dauxrs2

The body of the distributor being part of the oil gallery is what I was not aware of.

I will take this advice.

Thanks
David
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To ? on priming the oil pump (small block)





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:41 PM.

story-0
5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 most overrated Corvette track packages ever.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:46:45


VIEW MORE
story-1
Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

Slideshow: Every 2027 Corvette engine explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:16:31


VIEW MORE
story-2
Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

Slideshow: A Jaguar designer's personal project imagines what a modern front-engined Corvette might look like if Chevrolet revisited the golden age of the Stingray.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-08 19:53:43


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-6
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-8
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE