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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 02:04 AM
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when my vette cranks up it wont go all the way and start. can it be the cap and rotor??distribitor??? m i getting a spark or not???? how do check or diagnose/trouble shoot it???

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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 03:48 AM
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You can test for spark by putting a timing light on a spark plug wire and cranking the engine over. Or you can take the electrode tip off a spark plug, pull a plug wire, insert the spark plug in the wire end and hold the spark plug with insulated pliers about 1/8" from a metal part of the engine, like the head. You should see spark when cranking the engine.
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You started another thread saying the starter motor doesn't turn the car over. Which is it? The starter turns the motor and it doesn't fire, or the starter doesn't turn the engine? Knowing the answer to that would be a big help toward diagnosis.
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Originally Posted by PKguitar
You started another thread saying the starter motor doesn't turn the car over. Which is it? The starter turns the motor and it doesn't fire, or the starter doesn't turn the engine? Knowing the answer to that would be a big help toward diagnosis.
im having both problems not......i post 2 so i get 2 seperate answes cause i dont want to get confuse
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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You can test for spark by putting a timing light on a spark plug wire and cranking the engine over. Or you can take the electrode tip off a spark plug, pull a plug wire, insert the spark plug in the wire end and hold the spark plug with insulated pliers about 1/8" from a metal part of the engine, like the head. You should see spark when cranking the engine.
cool i will try that..... but if it has no spark what could it be??? do i need a new disribotor??????



what about putting a starting fluid on the carb?? and if it dont start i guess it has no spark.... will that work??????
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You have an HEI ignition, I assume? If so, it could be the ignition module inside your distributor. That's an easy fix. If you have a voltmeter, turn your ignition to the on position and check to see if you have 12 volts going into the distributor. Do this after checking for spark, though.

Don't use starter fluid.
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You have an HEI ignition, I assume? If so, it could be the ignition module inside your distributor. That's an easy fix. If you have a voltmeter, turn your ignition to the on position and check to see if you have 12 volts going into the distributor. Do this after checking for spark, though.

Don't use starter fluid.

thanks ill try that also..............

why not use a starter fluid??? will i break anything
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Starter fluid is intentionally quite explosive. I had a friend in high school who would start his small block in the morning with a squirt of starter fluid. One morning he called me to pick him up because he used a bit too much and blew a head gasket.
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Starter fluid is intentionally quite explosive. I had a friend in high school who would start his small block in the morning with a squirt of starter fluid. One morning he called me to pick him up because he used a bit too much and blew a head gasket.
ohh crap thats scary

ok... can it be the ignition coil also????????
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ohh crap thats scary

ok... can it be the ignition coil also????????
It could be, but it's more likely the ignition module than the coil. You'll need a multimeter to test resistance in the coil. Do you have one of those?
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Here is another place that good old 12v testlight will save a bunch of effort and guesswork

Put the testlight to the tach terminal on the HEI and crank it- if the testlight flashes, then the module AND pickup coil are good. (disconnect the tach wire from the HEI)

No flash then 1st the module and then the pickup coil. If it flashes, then very possibly the ignition coil.
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the ignition module is inside the distributor right????

i guess if tis the ignition module i will just get an all new distributor since its should be a full set up right?????
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Spend $200 for a new distributor or $25-$30 for a module. No choice IMHO.

troubleshooting these things is not that tough. it's easy to stand back and throw parts at them and hope you get it right.

Worst case here- you lost the timing chain- it's weekend to change it if you've NEVER done one before. Minimum investment in tools, (buy exactly what you need), BORROW the specialized stuff from your parts store, and spend UNDER $100 for top quality parts. ASK questions about the things you don't understand. I don't recommend anyone getting a Chilton or Haynes manual, but they're way cheaper than the GM Factory Service manual and you can get them just about anywhere. They're not a perfect 100% everytime correct manual, but most of the troubleshooting stuff is close enough to get you going.
Sorry for the rant!
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Have you checked for spark yet?
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Old Apr 26, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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im gonna check it this week...

i had a busy weekend so i dint have any time to do any work on it.
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