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Old May 6, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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I got my o-ring stuff in last night from VB&P. Looks like some quality chit.

A question on the dust boots though. Are you guys glueing them in with RTV or do you just rely on the interference fit? I didn't see any goop on the stock boots when I pulled them off.
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I rebuilt my calipers last year and didn't use any RTV on the dust seals. I don't believe there is any need to use anything on them.
Just check you have the correct size bolts for the caliper halfs. They accidently sent a couple of bolts that were to long and had to wait a few days to get the correct size sent. Other than that it was easy. VBP has good parts and great customer service

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Roger that, I'll double check the bolts tonight.

Also, did you put the springs in?

thanks!
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Did your kit come w/ springs? Not needed, better to leave out.

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Originally Posted by Ganey
Did your kit come w/ springs? Not needed, better to leave out.

Yeah, it did. They feel very weak ... well, no stronger than the stock ones I pulled out, so I kind of doubt they could move that o-ring piston through the bore anyway. Consensus seems to be to leave them out, so out they will stay.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 02:51 PM
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I put the dust boot in without any glue.

I have made quite many calipers and to be honest the dust-boots are the trickiest ones to get fitted properly.

My best advise is to file the edge on the metal of the boot and this always make the mounting far easier and your chance of ruin one of the boots a little less certain to happen.

Good luck!.

DO NOT FORGET TO USE PROPER GREASE FOR THIS !, there is a special grease only for brake-caliper-rubber that do not ruin the rubber itself !.
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Originally Posted by AnTra
DO NOT FORGET TO USE PROPER GREASE FOR THIS !, there is a special grease only for brake-caliper-rubber that do not ruin the rubber itself !.
You grease the piston? I thought the brake fluid itself was responsible for lubricating the piston & o-ring.

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Originally Posted by wcsinx
You grease the piston? I thought the brake fluid itself was responsible for that.

YES i defenitely Grease ALL gasket and O-rings that are in the Moving area. It should be a special grease for brake-fluid. If you use plain oil the O-rings and gaskets will swallow up, but if you only have brake-fluid , i´ll guess you could use that as well, i think it´s easier to use grease and feels like alot more solid workmanship...
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The kit comes with a grease that looks like white lithium but it could be something else. It helps to prevent damaging the o-ring when installing the piston.
I did use the springs but that was before I saw the postings here saying to leave them out. I'll probably leave them out next time around, hopefully in 20 years .
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Old May 7, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ganey
Did your kit come w/ springs? Not needed, better to leave out.
Why leave out? Not trying to hijack or insult anyone but just asking. Thanks
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Originally Posted by The3
Why leave out? Not trying to hijack or insult anyone but just asking. Thanks
Because they're meant for lip seal pistons. For o-ring pistons, they are unnecessary. And they don't even generate enough pressure to move the o-ring pistons anyway as they have much more pressure with the bore than lip seals.

So why are they in the rebuild package? Who knows. I do know that they didn't always put them in there. As I heard someone else postulate on this forum, VB&P probably just started including springs so they wouldn't have to field calls about them "missing" anymore. I do believe it's both harmless (and pointless) to install them in o-ring pistons.
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Originally Posted by RaymondD
The kit comes with a grease that looks like white lithium but it could be something else.
Hrmph ... no grease in my kit.
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I would give VBP a call. I'm sure they'd send you a packet of it.
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