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Looking for opinions on VBP front composite spring
Hi guys. I have an 80 with a small block and lots of modifications, including a 330lb rear composite spring. Whats your opinion of the VBP front transverse composite spring and lower A arm system, part no. 42030? How does it ride compared to stock? How much weight will I be able to drop with the system? How difficult to install, and how much time? My car is for agressive street driving- VBP has the 15% off deal running now. Thanks for your opinions and advice. Jim
I put this package on my 75 along with upper arms and the rack-and-pinion steering. It was easy to install and rides and drives really well. You may want to confirm with them that they have overcome the lower ball joint issue.
I have the full VB suspension on mine. Front transverse with their control arms and the dual mount rear with all the extras. I like it because it is adjustable. Nice ride when you want but it takes about 15 minutes to change over to aggresive rates. Nice system.
IMO - You can not beat the Semi coil over which I have or even going to full coil over.
My Dual adjust QA-1 Front end is about $850 from Summit Racing.
Gkull , please tell more about these semi-coil overs, and how do they work. I've seen them also cheaper than $850 at Summit.
my main issue with suspensions is that they are pretty stiff now and the road have to be really "perfect". But Italian roads are often not so perfect and so it's risky because I have my car literally jumping or moving sidewise when getting onto these road imperfections.
Actually my problem is at the rear susp , the front acts quite well (I have fixed all the plays..)
But if QA1 are a real improvement, why not...
I have the full VB suspension on mine. Front transverse with their control arms and the dual mount rear with all the extras. I like it because it is adjustable. Nice ride when you want but it takes about 15 minutes to change over to aggresive rates. Nice system.
I also have the same system and very easy to adjust the ride and height for street or autocross, very easy to install, I weighed everything but don't have the numbers handy, can't go wrong and the price is right with 15% off...., get rid of those coil springs and lower control arms and the upper arms as well. Brings your suspension into the C5 ride zone....
Last edited by 73jst4fun; Jun 1, 2009 at 04:39 PM.
Actually my problem is at the rear susp , the front acts quite well (I have fixed all the plays..)
If I had to worry about bad roads I would get a rear composit spring of about 340 or 360 inch pounds. No rear sway and adjustable rear shocks and run them on low compression and lot's of rebound.
Does the front transverse spring and mounting hardware actually weigh less than the two coil springs? Is there actually a reduction in vehicle weight by going to the transverse spring setup. I've heard how wonderfull the transverse spring rides but if there is a weight saving too, I'm all over that.
Bee Jay
Does the front transverse spring and mounting hardware actually weigh less than the two coil springs? Is there actually a reduction in vehicle weight by going to the transverse spring setup. I've heard how wonderfull the transverse spring rides but if there is a weight saving too, I'm all over that.
Bee Jay
The weight savings would probably be in the upper and lower control arms. Not sure how much it would be but only a couple of pounds. I doubt your going to see any measureable weight difference. But a pound or two is something.
The weight savings would probably be in the upper and lower control arms. Not sure how much it would be but only a couple of pounds. I doubt your going to see any measureable weight difference. But a pound or two is something.
Thanks Gordon, I think I will just keep my coil springs and save for aluminum A arms with offset ball joints.
Bee Jay
The weight savings would probably be in the upper and lower control arms. Not sure how much it would be but only a couple of pounds. I doubt your going to see any measureable weight difference. But a pound or two is something.
When I get to my notes I'll post the weight savings, if I recall it was something like 7-8 lbs....
If I had to worry about bad roads I would get a rear composit spring of about 340 or 360 inch pounds. No rear sway and adjustable rear shocks and run them on low compression and lot's of rebound.
I had on my former 79 vette:
VB&P 330lbs , Bilstein HD shocks, f41 sway bar. terrible. too soft, lot of rolling and the car jumping at hi speeds on road "waves"
the same car behaved pretty ok with a 30 years old 7 leaf spring ( and same shocks and sway bar)
my 69 BB was instead too soft with the set up above ( same 7 leaf , shocks, BB rear sway). I replaced recently the Bilstein HD with Sports but I'm not totally satisfied : the car is pretty stiff but difficult to drive on non perfect roads.
It seems to me that it's hard, too hard , to get from a Vette , a suspension response closer to a modern car, which is stiff but still fine on rutted roads... what's the reason? I suppose the hi weight of the car and the need for strong coils...
I've had the front transverse spring with both VB upper and lower control. I weighed the setup to compare with the removed OE control arms and springs. The VB control arms were about 1 lb lighter each and the transverse spring was about 7 lbs lighter than the 2 springs.
The setup is as advertised as far as ease of installation and adjustability. No Problemo - just a couple of hours of wrenching.
The instructions don't mention that when lowering the front, you must shorten the rubber frame bumper to allow vertical control arm movement. If you don't, you lose the benefit of the compliance of the composite spring and have a very rough ride since the suspension is disabled and you are riding on the frame.
Be aware that you will lose some road clearance - not much but some.
ive had my vbandp front spring system on my car for several years and i like it alot. plus you get the ball joints and poly control arm bushings with it. just make sure you get it aligned as my stock bushings were very worn and the new system drastically changed the tow of the wheels.
I wonder how the tranverse front spring package fits with the rack and pinion systems available? I deffinitely want to do the rack and pinion upgrade someday.
Bee Jay
I wonder how the tranverse front spring package fits with the rack and pinion systems available? I deffinitely want to do the rack and pinion upgrade someday.
Bee Jay