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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 10:32 PM
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Picked up my block from the machine shop to day along with the pistons/rods. I noticed that one of the wrist pins was not centered very well and brought it to the machinist attention. He politly pressed it to the center. When I got home and started assembly, the pin that he pressed is binding and doesn't float nearly as easy as the others. What should I do? Will this loosen up later?
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Picked up my block from the machine shop to day along with the pistons/rods. I noticed that one of the wrist pins was not centered very well and brought it to the machinist attention. He politly pressed it to the center. When I got home and started assembly, the pin that he pressed is binding and doesn't float nearly as easy as the others. What should I do? Will this loosen up later?
apply a little heat with a 100 watt bulb for a few minutes,.....it should loosen up believe it or not....if it does be sure to oil it up before you install it.....if the slight heat does not help, you have a problem.....
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Am I heating the whole piston/rod assembly or just the wrist pin area? How does the heat work?
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 11:09 PM
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normal assembly of the wrist pins usually involves the use of a heater to heat the small end of the rod very hot, which enlarges the hole enough for the wrist pin to be pushed in with very little force. If the piston was put into a press and the pin pressed in under force, it could have damaged the piston. I would not put that in a engine I was building. I will say this, it is possible that there is a newer way to assemble that I am not aware of. Any machinist know of another method other than heat?
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I know he heated them for the initial install, but he pressed that one pin that they didn't get centered. The other piston/rod assemblies are fine.
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The pin is pressed into the rod, and floats in the piston. They're still assembled the old fashioned way of heating the rod end, although most shops do it with an induction heater rather than the old propane units.

If he pressed - as in, in a press, - the pin cold I have no doubt it's no longer centered on the pin bore and so it's galling in the piston pin bore.

So, first - time to head back to the shop. There's no way to "fix" what he's done other than to provide a new rod, pin and piston. Second - any shop that would do that (frankly) probably has other questionable practices...so be darn careful checking everything as it goes back in, and/or have someone with an experienced eye look everything over.

Sorry
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When I got home and started assembly, the pin that he pressed is binding and doesn't float nearly as easy as the others. What should I do? Will this loosen up later?
It sounds like the pin is no longer square in the rod end or the press somehow damaged something. I agree with Buddy1980 on not putting it into the engine. Take it back to the machine shop and talk to the supv. Hopefully he will do what's right.
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Originally Posted by Kahle76
Picked up my block from the machine shop to day along with the pistons/rods. I noticed that one of the wrist pins was not centered very well and brought it to the machinist attention. He politly pressed it to the center. When I got home and started assembly, the pin that he pressed is binding and doesn't float nearly as easy as the others. What should I do? Will this loosen up later?
Are you talking about full floating or pressed in piston pin?
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Pins are installed (press type) by useing either a rod heater (best way) or useing equipment such as a Sunnen pin press. There is no way to remove or reposition a pin without a pin press. Useing the wrong reduceing ring from the Sunnen pin press equipment and or miss alingment while pressing will fold over the edge of the piston some and cause the tight pin to piston fit. You will probaly find that the pin is much freer with the pin pushed to one side compared to the other side. If this is the case you can scrape that edge off and be fine, but I would do it the right way which is to remove the piston completely and re-hone the pin bore in the piston and rechecking to be sure you do not have to much clearance now. If you have to much clearance now you can use an oversize pin, but I wood not advise that, just replace the piston is best.
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Thanks guys for the input. I took Midyearvette's advice and worked in a little more oil and it loosened up. I also took it to a local machanic that has a great reputation, and he said it's a little tight but OK. I'm just a little protective of my baby.
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Originally Posted by Kahle76
Thanks guys for the input. I took Midyearvette's advice and worked in a little more oil and it loosened up. I also took it to a local machanic that has a great reputation, and he said it's a little tight but OK. I'm just a little protective of my baby.
it has always amazed me how a few degrees of temperature works on newly (never run) machined parts..it's really cool what just 50-100 degrees will do......good luck on the rest of your baby's build.....
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