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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 08:21 PM
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I'm not getting a spark. I think the coil may be bad. Is there a way to test a coil?
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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I don't think I ever tried to test just a coil for spark, I have several used ones I just swap if I suspect a bad coil.
If I had to guess on a way to do it I would say put 12 volts the pos term , put a coil wire in the center and position the other end 1/2" from ground, then attach a wire to the neg term and with the other end of the wire quickly scratch ground and watch for the arch at the coil wire. Thats just a guess.
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I don't think I ever tried to test just a coil for spark, I have several used ones I just swap if I suspect a bad coil.
If I had to guess on a way to do it I would say put 12 volts the pos term , put a coil wire in the center and position the other end 1/2" from ground, then attach a wire to the neg term and with the other end of the wire quickly scratch ground and watch for the arch at the coil wire. Thats just a guess.


Ya beat me to it, Roger.
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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Thanks guys ... I'll give it a try tomorrow.
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Ya beat me to it, Roger.
I learned that from you.
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i would check to see if you are getting power to the coil .
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oh there is an ez way and that is put an spark plug in it and see if it arcs. um if i can find it there is an youtube video that explains this
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i would check to see if you are getting power to the coil .
I do have 12 volts to the coil. Thanks
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oh there is an ez way and that is put an spark plug in it and see if it arcs. um if i can find it there is an youtube video that explains this
Would that be to put the bare boot end of the plug in the coil and ground the threads of the plug?
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Would that be to put the bare boot end of the plug in the coil and ground the threads of the plug?
yah so it kinda acts like as if it were an "coil on Plug"

i have seen it work before
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Originally Posted by PuddleJumper
yah so it kinda acts like as if it were an "coil on Plug"

i have seen it work before
The plug still needs a return path for it to be able to develop a spark. This means the threaded part must be grounded against the block or some other ground when cranking.

Solve this easily through Process of elimination: you already know you have power to the coil. Use one of the plug wires in place of the coil wire and try to start the engine. Of course the cylinder you took the wire from will miss, but:

if the coil is good, the engine will start. - replace coil wire.
if the coil is bad, the engine will not start. - replace coil
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by RobbSalzmann

Solve this easily through Process of elimination: you already know you have power to the coil. Use one of the plug wires in place of the coil wire and try to start the engine. Of course the cylinder you took the wire from will miss, but:

if the coil is good, the engine will start. - replace coil wire.
if the coil is bad, the engine will not start. - replace coil
What if the wire going to the points is grounded or open ?
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Originally Posted by DWncchs
What if the wire going to the points is grounded or open ?
You make a good point DW. My thought was if he's already had the meter out to check power to the coil, he also inspected under the cap.

The point of my post is demonstrate logical troubleshooting to reach a diagnosis, versus 'guessing' until he gets to the right part.

A lot of time and energy can be spent on hunt-n-peck, where a logical process will quickly lead to a solution.
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Originally Posted by RobbSalzmann

The point of my post is demonstrate logical troubleshooting to reach a diagnosis, versus 'guessing' until he gets to the right part.

A lot of time and energy can be spent on hunt-n-peck, where a logical process will quickly lead to a solution.
100% I like working through a problem systematically and finding the exact cause rather than changing 4 or 5 things and wondering what actually fixed it. ( I'm a lot **** that way . )
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If the OP has 12 volts at the coil+, then a short between the coil and points is unlikely (unless there is also a fault with an open primary winding). Assuming the points are open, there should be 12 volts at both primary terminals.
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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Here is the fastest way I found to test. Takes less than a minute.

Take dist cap off and put a known good spark plug on coil wire and lay spark plug on engine ground anywhere.

Turn ignition to on.

Start with the points closed, take a small screwdriver and touching only the moveable part of the points, open the points.

You should see the points arc a little when opening (you know you have power) and also the spark plug will spark (coil is good).

The only variable would be the coil wire.

The coil might not perform well at rpm when hot though.
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Thanks everyone. The coil checked out fine. My very new points were cooked. I think I must have left the ignition switch on last time I drove the car.
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