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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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Hello all,

I have decided to do a 383 build. I'm looking for a streetable 500hp/500tq. It has been many years since I have taken on a project like this, and I would like to eliminate stupid mistakes.

Is there a certain year range of blocks that are more desirable for a build like this. I'm sure I want a 4 bolt block. But other than that, is there anything to avoid?

Thanks for any help.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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i think u want to avoid blocks that have been alredy bored .30 over lol.
i know there is an sight out there that lists the no no blocks.

most larger journal 302, 327, and 350 blocks should be ok in theory but only and bore sounding would determine if u can or cant with them. you could go buy an new block though to.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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What do you consider streetable. A daily driver streetable is different than a weekend car streetable. My 385 (.040 over) is streetable and around 500 HP but I would not want it to be a daily driver. If you are looking for a smooth 500 HP you had better go up over 400 ci for a streetable 500 HP. A 383 can be done but it needs very good heads and a fairly big cam to make 500 HP.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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Yes, the car will be a weekend ride with the occasional ride to work. Not a daily driver for sure. But I do not want a constant project.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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If you're starting from scratch and you're really looking for those power numbers, an aftermarket block is the starting point. Bring money.

Move the targets down a bit and an 87-98 roller cam block is an excellent foundation - you will want a roller cam to get maximum streetability at those power levels. Other parts selection comes from trans/gearing.

There are several...lively...threads with configuration guidance currently burning in this forum on the board. A little search will provide some good starting points

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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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Always a big question is what is the budget or projected budget.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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Always a big question is what is the budget or projected budget.
Ain't fair - that's usually MY

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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by billla
Ain't fair - that's usually MY

When you said "Bring Money" that made me think of it.

The aftermarket block is the way to go and you can go bigger cubes much easier, If it is in the budget.
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500hp in a streetable 383 is very easy...all in the right combo of parts and dialing in the tune. Definitely roller cam around the 230/240ish range, AFR 195 heads, around a 10CR, single plane intake, and 500hp on the engine dyno all day long.
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bloozeman2002
But I do not want a constant project.
and your building a C3???

drive it hard on saturday and sunday, fix it monday- friday....
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Thanks for the replies. I'm gathering all of this info before purchasing anything.. That Dart block seems like a really good idea!
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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bloozeman2002
Thanks for the replies. I'm gathering all of this info before purchasing anything.. That Dart block seems like a really good idea!
Will any Dart 400 block work? Are there specific part numbers and dates we should look for is trying to find used? I am also looking to do a similar build.
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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GeorgeS
Will any Dart 400 block work? Are there specific part numbers and dates we should look for is trying to find used? I am also looking to do a similar build.
This is the one I was sent..

jegs.com

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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GeorgeS
Will any Dart 400 block work? Are there specific part numbers and dates we should look for is trying to find used? I am also looking to do a similar build.
The SHPs are a relatively new block, so I don't think you'll find any used at this point. They're priced to fit between the cost of prepping a stock block and the price of a traditional aftermarket block - so they're a sweet deal for high HP street performance engines.

At the 500HP level, just about any aftermarket block is fine just remember when you're buying one of these used, they've been used hard...so either take the risk or ask the seller to agree that it passes mag/pressure or you get your $$$ back. More likely to find good used cores at your local machine shop than on the 'net.
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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bloozeman2002
This is the one I was sent..

jegs.com

Bloozeman, I saw that number in the earlier post for a new block. I was thinking of looking for used block ans wanted to know if there were a list of product to get or stay away from...

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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bloozeman2002
This is the one I was sent..
jegs.com
Jegs gets 1455.00 for that block plus shipping and no machine work

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Folks..............a friendly reminder, no links to non-supporting vendors.
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Gm is still selling the 383 shortblock, and with afr heads and a good roller cam you should get fairly close. Are you trying to piece one together cheaply or do it right? Any time you want that level of horsepower you need to spend a little to get a little. The gm shortblock comes with a forged steel crankshaft.
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Originally Posted by Bloozeman2002
Thanks for the replies. I'm gathering all of this info before purchasing anything.. That Dart block seems like a really good idea!
streetable power? GO BIG BLOCK....
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Originally Posted by ALLTHROTTLE&NOBOTTLE
Folks..............a friendly reminder, no links to non-supporting vendors.
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Apologies.. I was unaware.
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