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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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I would wish to find an engine with 2 OHC (overhead cam)!!!!!!!!

I know that mustang produced some!!!!

is it possible to find some and at which??
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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The only OHC V-8's that GM produced where the LT-5 and Northstar. The LT-5 is very expensive, long out of production and hard to find parts. The Northstar is newer but is a much smaller engine (I want to say 4.6 liters). It also designed for a FWD application so there are other issues as well.

The proven pushrod OHV design works. OHC is good for bragging rights but not much else.

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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 12:23 PM
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DOHC= Braging rights, more weight, parts get more expensive, engine revs up an little slower. hence GM uses Pushrods in the 2009 ZR1 witch dose 200 MPH and 0-60 in about 3 seconds.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by delgal
...is it possible to find some and at which...
Google what you're looking for.

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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 02:14 PM
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In your part of the world (Belgium), your best bet would be an Audi, Mercedes or BMW V-8 if you have your heart set on a DOHC setup. Heck, if money's no object, get a Ford 427 DOHC motor! Those babies made some power.

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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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Heck, if money's no object, get a Ford 427 DOHC motor! Those babies made some power.
I'm not sure if I have ever seen 427 dohc did they have the plug in the middle of the head like a hemi ? I saw one of those in a Mustang.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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Yep, they were designed for NASCAR, outlawed, then used for drag racing extensively in the '60's. Awsome engines, there is a guy out here (Wayne Torkelson) that ran a '57 T-bird with one in it. I haven't seen it in a while, but it was bad **s to watch! latest times were in the 6.599 range!

http://www.firebirdonline.com/blast_.../bftp_4_16.htm

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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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The Ford 427 had one cam in each head, so it was considered
a single overhead cam engine. A dohc v8 would have 2 cams in each head for a total of 4.
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Originally Posted by robwoz
The Ford 427 had one cam in each head, so it was considered
a single overhead cam engine. A dohc v8 would have 2 cams in each head for a total of 4.
You know your FEs. The Drag Week N/A modified winner took down the field with a Galaxie running a cammer.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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Yes, the 60s Ford was SOHC! & sometimes called a "cammer".
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Forget the DOHC and go with a 32-valve small block Chevy. These heads are plenty exotic and will get you where you want to be.







http://www.araoengineering.com/Chevy/chevysmb.htm
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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Rarely mentioned the SOHC 427 had hemi chambers.
overhead cam 3 and 4 vale engines are far superior to two valve push rod engines its a real shame no one has built a large cube version,
the down side has always been the extra cost and size of the overall package.
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My shop has a bunch of different types of DOHC America v-8 and V12's 4 valve per cylinder.

Ford Cosworths, buicks, Westlakes, The Gurney Westlake eagle F1 car. Anywhere from 3000 cc to the big 7.4 liter. The only problem is they cost $70,000 to rebuild these exotic motors
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gkull
My shop has a bunch of different types of DOHC America v-8 and V12's 4 valve per cylinder.

Ford Cosworths, buicks, Westlakes, The Gurney Westlake eagle F1 car. Anywhere from 3000 cc to the big 7.4 liter. The only problem is they cost $70,000 to rebuild these exotic motors
Interesting which one is 7.4 liters or V12s ?
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get an BBC 454-572 lol and you dont need an DOHC lol.

i dont get the point of of people wanting OHCs lol
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Originally Posted by toddalin
Forget the DOHC and go with a 32-valve small block Chevy. These heads are plenty exotic and will get you where you want to be.

Here is the Arao flow:


Here are the new AFR 195 Eliminator with Competion porting option.


Here are the AFR 227 Eliminator with Competion porting option.


The Arao may flow better than stock but the new generation of 23 degree heads have passed them by.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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Hey Delgal,

Do you actually have a project going on? You have started a number of threads in the last week or so on different engines but you don't seem to get involved in the threads.



Rick B.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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It would be nice if Chevy did a sohc setup on the 350. The benefits are awesome in my opinion.
Easier cam/cam bearing swaps, no pushrods, rocker studs, or guideplates to mess with.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 12:08 AM
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Overhead cams become an advantage in a lot of ways from a durabilty
stand point you loose the lifter and pushrod, they make multiple valves
for better breathing possible, each individual valve is lighter it takes less
valve spring pressure to control the lighter small multiple valves.

Even in truck engines that turn as low 1600 rpm since the early 1990s
all have changed over to overhead cam, truck engines have had
two intake and two exhaust valves forever, starting in the nineties they got rid of the roller lifters and push rods better durabilty without them.

Its truly a shame no one has built a large cubic inch production engine
with multiple valves overhead cams.

A big block chevy of only 454 cubes and most people go bigger is way under valved even if you put a set of 2.35 sized intake valve aftermarket heads on it, the bigger the cubes get the more under valved the big block becomes.

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Originally Posted by Little Mouse
Interesting which one is 7.4 liters or V12s ?
I got to work on some of those big v-12's that came in those IMSA Jaguar silk cut and castrol GTX Those were anywhere from 7.0 to almost 8.0 liter. From the same IMSA time period I have seen 4 cam 4 valve nearly 500 ci gear driven cammed American big block Chevys

The gurney eagle is 3.0 liter v-12 4 cam 4 valve also. all of our older v-8 Indy cars were kind of stock/aluminum american blocks with 4 cams and 4 valves. We have the 1966 david fulmer indy car aluminum buick block and the exhaust exits where your normal V-8 intake is. The injection is nearly straight down. Indy cars back then were only 255ci We have one of the indy 500 car from 1976 also a V-8 4X4 which makes over 800 hp with twin turbos out of less than 200 ci

We have Ford cosworth v-8's from 3.00 liter to 5 liter
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