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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 02:43 AM
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I got 18 on the highway in my 71 the last time I drove it any distance, 355 sb 4 speed. This is with a 750 holley 4150hp, in town I haven't kept track but it's bad, I would guess 10 or less.
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by G Littman
But my great running car only gets 11 miles to the gallon.
My ZZ502 with an M-20 and 3.55 gears gets 12 mpg. I don't feel so bad now.
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Ganey
Duals increase gas mileage & adding headers increases more.
Comp Cams says the 252H & 260H (good for 300+HP) cams.
Anyone here got a Dyno pull with over 235 RWHP using one of those cams without aftermarket heads?
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
The folks who get 20+ mpg on the highway with their C3's have: 1) crate engines with computers and injectors; 2) overdrive transmissions which cruise doing 70mph at 2000 rpm; 3) both computer/injection and overdrive trannies; 4) '81 or '82 C3's with properly functioning fuel metering systems. The rest of us carbureted folks are getting 16mpg or less at highway speeds.

Oh, I should have added another: 5) those who have converted their earlier C3 fuel systems to TBI or TPI injection.
I disagree. My old car's engine was built to '69 350/300 specs except it had electronic ignition added. On long highway runs I would get 18-20 with a Rochester Q-jet. It took some dorking around with the timing on my part, and some work on the carb on my brother's part (a professional mechanic at the time) to get there, but it was reliably in that range. I get 10 around town with my big block now, if a 350 can only do 6 miles better on the highway than my 454 does in town, there has to be something wrong, or we are talking very low rear ends or something.

BTW, to those adding av gas and the like: When I first got the car, it didn't seem to run right unless I added a couple of gallons of "Cam2" racing fuel to each tank. When I finally got the tune right (which took a lot of learning on my part, it was harder than tuning a VW engine ;-) ), I didn't need any kind of additive to the fuel anymore. It ripped better on pump premium then than it ever did on the Cam2. If your compression ratio is in the 10s or less, and your premium fuel is 91 octane or better and you need to add anything to the fuel, I think you would be better served by working on your tune than adding crap to your gas. Just one man's opinion.....
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by G Littman
I have an '81 Vette that has 50,000 miles on it with a newly rebuilt carburetor that runs really good. (it actually rough idles sometimes at idle - can't figure that out!)
But my great running car only gets 11 miles to the gallon. Am told this car should get 15 - 17 which would make a BIG difference.

What could this be? Do I need high end plugs, coil, wires?

The original gigantic catalytic converter was replaced long ago with a more streamlined model.
Would a new high end converter make the milage even better?

Any thoughts?

Thanks, Greg
Please take no offense, but are we talking 50,000 miles or 150,000 miles. I don't understand why a 50,000 mile car would need a new carb.

When's the last time it got new plugs, an air filter, distributor rotor and possibly distributor cap? It shouldn't need plug wires if it is a true 50,000 mile car. It's very hard to believe you're only getting 11 miles per gallon.
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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The car sat for six years in Miami and all the rubber rotted. The carburetor had to be rebuilt to make California smog and it wasn't running great.

Wonder if I should replace the dist cap, rotor, plugs, plug wires?

Other than a rough idle sometimes when at idle, the car runs great but... 11 miles SUCKS.

Thanks for thoughts, Greg
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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It's hard to calculate mpg with the Holley singing
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by G Littman
The car sat for six years in Miami and all the rubber rotted. The carburetor had to be rebuilt to make California smog and it wasn't running great.

Wonder if I should replace the dist cap, rotor, plugs, plug wires?

Other than a rough idle sometimes when at idle, the car runs great but... 11 miles SUCKS.

Thanks for thoughts, Greg
If it's been sitting for 6 years, it's gonna need a lot of things replaced.
For the record. My carb is a BG Speed Demon 650 CFM. I replaced the jets (smaller than what was sent) and Power Valve.
Filled up the tank today. Drove around town, stop & go, a few stops for normal everyday stuff, and a short blast down the 4 lane highway. Went 18 miles total and the gas gage needle hasn't budged. I'm going to do some more cruising around and when the needle gets to the 3/4 full mark, I'll fill it back up and do the math.
I'll let you know what I get.
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Originally Posted by G Littman
The car sat for six years in Miami and all the rubber rotted. The carburetor had to be rebuilt to make California smog and it wasn't running great.

Wonder if I should replace the dist cap, rotor, plugs, plug wires?

Other than a rough idle sometimes when at idle, the car runs great but... 11 miles SUCKS.

Thanks for thoughts, Greg
Inspect the plugs, rotor, cap and wires first before buying anything. Replacing old worn out plugs etc. might and I stress the word might get you 1 mpg more. Hey, replace this stuff anyway, then you know everything is fresh. Check the air pressure in the tires and replace the air filter too.

I have to wonder maybe the previous owner put some lower gears in the back, maybe a cam and some other high performance parts inside the engine. Did you buy the car from a private owner or a car lot in Florida? The reason I ask is, a private owner would have told you what all has been done to it.

You said the car runs great, and that's great! Especially passing CA emissions. Maybe all we're going to get is 11, 12 mpg out of it. If that's the case well, just enjoy your Corvette and don't check gas mileage anymore.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by PKguitar

BTW, to those adding av gas and the like: When I first got the car, it didn't seem to run right unless I added a couple of gallons of "Cam2" racing fuel to each tank. When I finally got the tune right (which took a lot of learning on my part, it was harder than tuning a VW engine ;-) ), I didn't need any kind of additive to the fuel anymore. It ripped better on pump premium then than it ever did on the Cam2. If your compression ratio is in the 10s or less, and your premium fuel is 91 octane or better and you need to add anything to the fuel, I think you would be better served by working on your tune than adding crap to your gas. Just one man's opinion.....
There are more variables in this other than compression, I am running 10.5:1 with a ~.55 lift and ~240 duration at 50*, Iron heads, with 14* initial and 36* total ... take this combo on a hot 100*+ day and yes, even with a well tuned carb I ping on 91.... can I back off the timing? richen up the mix? well... yes, but this take away HP, and I would rather have my power and add a little rocket fuel!! :-)

O, and BTW... ~ 3 weeks ago I was running a Edelbrock 750 getting ~13mpg, Just changed it to a BG Speed Demon 750 and now i am at less than 10mpg... and 15 more foot pounds of torque on the dyno...

Maybe I need to tap my own oil well...
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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On the Holley Commander 950/4Di, you can adjust your accelarator pump shot. I have mine pretty maxed out to eliminate any bog. Maybe that is my culprit, but I should be getting better than 10-13mpg with fuel injection, headers, dual free flowing exhaust, and only 224/234 duration cam.
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I just filled up. 11.04mpg. Damn, I coulda had a big block V8.
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Originally Posted by stingraymyway
If it's been sitting for 6 years, it's gonna need a lot of things replaced.
For the record. My carb is a BG Speed Demon 650 CFM. I replaced the jets (smaller than what was sent) and Power Valve.
Filled up the tank today. Drove around town, stop & go, a few stops for normal everyday stuff, and a short blast down the 4 lane highway. Went 18 miles total and the gas gage needle hasn't budged. I'm going to do some more cruising around and when the needle gets to the 3/4 full mark, I'll fill it back up and do the math.
I'll let you know what I get.
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I just filled up. 11.04mpg. Damn, I coulda had a big block V8.
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Just filled up too.
Got, round off not up, 18mpg.
That's just my normal driving around, no coasting, no hot footing it either.
Really like to see what it'd do if it had a 4 speed OD.
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