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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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After autocrossing this weekend, I drove my car to work today. It was a beautiful day driving out to SLC6. So after my meetings, I took one of my favorite roads to meausure the cars performance, since I still had the rear tires down to 34psi, the 40lb woofer box and the t-tops in my garage. My best run was 13.1 seconds @ 114.6mph, still fighting traction problems and the fi not pulling above 5000rpm like the Q-jet did. I think with even less air in the rear tires, and remaping my fi above 4500 rpm, maybe I'll finally get this sucker into the 12s. If that doesn't do it, I have that LT4 Hot Cam and Performer RPM Air Gap I'm installing real soon.
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After autocrossing this weekend, I drove my car to work today. It was a beautiful day driving out to SLC6. So after my meetings, I took one of my favorite roads to meausure the cars performance, since I still had the rear tires down to 34psi, the 40lb woofer box and the t-tops in my garage. My best run was 13.1 seconds @ 114.6mph, still fighting traction problems and the fi not pulling above 5000rpm like the Q-jet did. I think with even less air in the rear tires, and remaping my fi above 4500 rpm, maybe I'll finally get this sucker into the 12s. If that doesn't do it, I have that LT4 Hot Cam and Performer RPM Air Gap I'm installing real soon.
12 second club wanna be.
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you certainly have the trap speed for low to mid 12's...good luck
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wow, thats pretty good BJ..

how much is your engine pushing? i ran a 13.2 last time i went to the track with cooper cobras and no hard launching.

i want to get into the 12s with all motor, but i need to beef up my diff before i blow it up (its been acting up lately)

you have a really good trap speed.. i think mine was something like 103.. but i only got one good run in that day.. ill have to wait till spring to see what Shirley can really do

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what tranny are you running?
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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What are you measuring it with?

Good times but I think you can do better.
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what tranny are you running?
700R4 with a 3.55 rear end.
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What are you measuring it with?

Good times but I think you can do better.
An ancient G-tech.
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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Hi Bee Jay,
A 12-second street car is w-a-a-y respectable.

I have no doubt your car is there with the tweaks your leaning towards. Keep us posted.
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On real street tires and with that low 1st gear in the 700r4, you probably were spinning a little too. Easy 12 seconds with that MPH.
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An ancient G-tech.
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I used to have one of them. It was pretty accurate too. I ran it down the strip once and had the G Tech on and it was about 2 tenths and about 2 mph off. Can't remember if it was high or low.
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With that mph, it sounds like you might be experiencing some traction problems...lol... I'd bet the farm you'd be in the mid 12's with a set of drag radials, and a lot easier than installing another cam. Or try lowering your current air pressure to around 14-16 psi. What's your 60' ft. times?
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I used to have one of them. It was pretty accurate too. I ran it down the strip once and had the G Tech on and it was about 2 tenths and about 2 mph off. Can't remember if it was high or low.
G-tech admits that the mph will be off because it gives an instantaneous mph at the 1/4 mile marker, whereas the strip timer gives you an average mph over 60'.
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'Optimized', with gears, converter, slicks, etc., 114 MPH translates to mid-11s:
Bee Jay, the speed-trap is 66' long (1/80th-mile), not 60' (not that it really matters, just for your knowledge)


Very-impressive, Bee Jay!

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problem is the transmission. 700r4 is not a great drag racing transmission. 1st is way to low and the gap between it and 2nd is rather large and will put your motor out of it's sweet spot if your not carefull. ask me how i know. hint: got one in my 67 camaro. i have 4.11 gears in it also. i have heard the firehawk indy 500's have alot better traction than the bfg. may want to try a rear tire swap. do some research on those tires.
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problem is the transmission. 700r4 is not a great drag racing transmission. 1st is way to low and the gap between it and 2nd is rather large and will put your motor out of it's sweet spot if your not carefull. ask me how i know. hint: got one in my 67 camaro. i have 4.11 gears in it also. i have heard the firehawk indy 500's have alot better traction than the bfg. may want to try a rear tire swap. do some research on those tires.
I don't want to build a drag car, just a kick *** street Vette that is a blast to drive, and can perform. 12 Second quarters, kick *** brakes, and gymkhana handling, all while looking good. The 295s should be enough to bite, I just need to find the right inflation. I don't get to touch flight hardware at work, so working on my Vette satisfies an itch.
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i don't personally have those indy 500 tires, but from what i have read they are going on my 71 vette. they are supposed to handle and grip better than any other 15 " tires for our cars. even the guys on the cobra site recommend them (road racers) over everything else. the mickey thompson s/r got good reviews also. from personal experience, those bfg's don't grip worth a crap. checkem out, sounds like you need more traction not hp.
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i don't personally have those indy 500 tires, but from what i have read they are going on my 71 vette. they are supposed to handle and grip better than any other 15 " tires for our cars. even the guys on the cobra site recommend them (road racers) over everything else. the mickey thompson s/r got good reviews also. from personal experience, those bfg's don't grip worth a crap. checkem out, sounds like you need more traction not hp.
I've got 18x10.5" rear wheels with 295/35-18 General tires.
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Bee Jay: I can't help but think that a little less throttle and a little more bite and Your There!
I also agree that trans is not helping.
How much grinding was required to get 275/50/17 on the front?
Yours is the model for my 74, mostly. lol

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Bee Jay: I can't help but think that a little less throttle and a little more bite and Your There!
I also agree that trans is not helping.
How much grinding was required to get 275/50/17 on the front?
Yours is the model for my 74, mostly. lol

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275/40-17s up front on 17x9.5" wheels. No grinding needed. Less throttle? In a drag run? I never heard of that. I pretty much floor it. I think I would get a better launch if I powerbraked for a moment.
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275/40-17s up front on 17x9.5" wheels. No grinding needed. Less throttle? In a drag run? I never heard of that. I pretty much floor it. I think I would get a better launch if I powerbraked for a moment.
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In my modest, 14-flat '82, I have noticed that leaning on the converter is worth a good tenth or more, over leaving from idle:
stage as shallow-as-possible, to maximize your rollout, and inflate your front tires as high a possible (unless you are adamant about getting into the 12s 'as-is'), to reduce rolling-resistence

I'm thinking you'd need to run 660' in 8.2 or-quicker to run 12's in the 1/4-mile
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