Borgeson steering box dimensions?
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Borgeson steering box dimensions?
Guys
I cant find the threads that point to the borgeson steering box compared to the stock box.
Does anyone have a side by side and or dimensions of the borgeson box compared to the stock box?
Got a big block with McJacks headers and I'm concerned the box wont fit. The stock box is real tight.
mike
I cant find the threads that point to the borgeson steering box compared to the stock box.
Does anyone have a side by side and or dimensions of the borgeson box compared to the stock box?
Got a big block with McJacks headers and I'm concerned the box wont fit. The stock box is real tight.
mike
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Thanks for the link.
I read the thread you mention above and this is what got me interested in the first place.
The thread doesn't show measurements that I can see (maybe I missed them). It appears that the new box is about an inch taller at the sector adjustment plate? Is that true? Hard to tell from the pictures specifically. I kinda need to know the thickness of the new box compared to the old box at the worm gear section. It seems the sector adjustment plate with the bolts in it is the part that would give me the most trouble. If its truly taller I might be ok.
mike
I read the thread you mention above and this is what got me interested in the first place.
The thread doesn't show measurements that I can see (maybe I missed them). It appears that the new box is about an inch taller at the sector adjustment plate? Is that true? Hard to tell from the pictures specifically. I kinda need to know the thickness of the new box compared to the old box at the worm gear section. It seems the sector adjustment plate with the bolts in it is the part that would give me the most trouble. If its truly taller I might be ok.
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I have one and haven't installed it in my '79 yet. It measures about 5 1/4 inches across the bolts to the back of the housing. I eye balled this so it could be about an 1/8 inch off in either direction.
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I will take pictures and measurements side by side when I replace it so others have a real comparison to go by.
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'mysixtynine: I realise that this is a very old thread, but I also have very little clearance and was wondering how your install went or if you ever compared the dimensions from the stock box to the borgeson?
Here is a pic of mine. The header is already dimpled a bit, any guesses if some grinding on the borgeson box will get it to fit??
Here is a pic of mine. The header is already dimpled a bit, any guesses if some grinding on the borgeson box will get it to fit??
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'mysixtynine: I realise that this is a very old thread, but I also have very little clearance and was wondering how your install went or if you ever compared the dimensions from the stock box to the borgeson?
Here is a pic of mine. The header is already dimpled a bit, any guesses if some grinding on the borgeson box will get it to fit??
Here is a pic of mine. The header is already dimpled a bit, any guesses if some grinding on the borgeson box will get it to fit??
Mate is that a BB or SB. cant tell from the photo
I have just finished fitting a Borgeson box to my 70 model BB
tight fit
I have a 496 with dart heads and headmen headers
and box did not fit it just touched the no. 3 and 5 tubes
I have to remove a few mm of the corner of one of the bolt that holds the power control section to the steering box
and 2mm of the side of the box
I measured the thinness of the material where I had to grind the box and it measured 4.2mm with an ultrasonic measuring tool
and the ground 2mm off
I have 2 mm clearance now and has 3mm in the similar position with the original steering box
I have not driven it as yet
I still have to connect hoses and have a alignment done
I will post a photo when I down load them
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Hey bfit, thanks for the info. Yes mine is a BB, but with stock heads. I haven't done the install yet as I'm still waiting on some parts. I think your heads probably have raised exhaust ports, not sure it that is better or worse, but it's good to know that you got it in there. Will let you know how I go when all the parts finally arrive!
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Hey bfit, thanks for the info. Yes mine is a BB, but with stock heads. I haven't done the install yet as I'm still waiting on some parts. I think your heads probably have raised exhaust ports, not sure it that is better or worse, but it's good to know that you got it in there. Will let you know how I go when all the parts finally arrive!
I have a few Borgeson boxes and ancillary parts lying around here in Melbourne and can measure some up if you wish. Let me know and I'll whip out the tape measure.
Regards from Down Under.
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Rightoh!
From the mounting flange face, i.e. the chassis, to the centre of the sector shaft 1.25". From the centre of the input shaft to the "widest" part of the box, another 1.25", a total "width" of 2-1/2" In other words, it will "protude" into the engine bay a maximum of two and a half inches. The widest part of the box is the flange where the top cover is bolted, the box is a few millimetres narrower further down.
Not a problem with factory exhaust manifolds or the small block Sanderson Block Hugger headers I have, but it might be close for custom headers on either engine type. It might even touch on headers fitted to non standard heads, particularly big block ones, but then, those would probably touch the factory box as well.
Hope this helps.
Regards from Down Under.
aussiejohn
From the mounting flange face, i.e. the chassis, to the centre of the sector shaft 1.25". From the centre of the input shaft to the "widest" part of the box, another 1.25", a total "width" of 2-1/2" In other words, it will "protude" into the engine bay a maximum of two and a half inches. The widest part of the box is the flange where the top cover is bolted, the box is a few millimetres narrower further down.
Not a problem with factory exhaust manifolds or the small block Sanderson Block Hugger headers I have, but it might be close for custom headers on either engine type. It might even touch on headers fitted to non standard heads, particularly big block ones, but then, those would probably touch the factory box as well.
Hope this helps.
Regards from Down Under.
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Rightoh!
From the mounting flange face, i.e. the chassis, to the centre of the sector shaft 1.25". From the centre of the input shaft to the "widest" part of the box, another 1.25", a total "width" of 2-1/2" In other words, it will "protude" into the engine bay a maximum of two and a half inches. The widest part of the box is the flange where the top cover is bolted, the box is a few millimetres narrower further down.
Not a problem with factory exhaust manifolds or the small block Sanderson Block Hugger headers I have, but it might be close for custom headers on either engine type. It might even touch on headers fitted to non standard heads, particularly big block ones, but then, those would probably touch the factory box as well.
Hope this helps.
Regards from Down Under.
aussiejohn
From the mounting flange face, i.e. the chassis, to the centre of the sector shaft 1.25". From the centre of the input shaft to the "widest" part of the box, another 1.25", a total "width" of 2-1/2" In other words, it will "protude" into the engine bay a maximum of two and a half inches. The widest part of the box is the flange where the top cover is bolted, the box is a few millimetres narrower further down.
Not a problem with factory exhaust manifolds or the small block Sanderson Block Hugger headers I have, but it might be close for custom headers on either engine type. It might even touch on headers fitted to non standard heads, particularly big block ones, but then, those would probably touch the factory box as well.
Hope this helps.
Regards from Down Under.
aussiejohn
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sterring box
before the Australian corvette convention and did not have time to fit it
AS above I have BB and new box does fit if you have stock exhaust it will be a breeze to fit
I found that the box bolted in and lined up with shaft of column
It is a blood big box com paired to original
but looks the part bolted in
I have a 70 model that this is fitted to no need to take column out not move anything.
I removed old steering box and fitted new one with out removing nay other that the old steering box
it helps if oyu have car up on a hoist to do drag link pit man arm removal
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